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Old 07-04-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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This is quite an odd post. First, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it illegal for U.S. Citizens to be members of the Communist Party? If I'm correct, then how would one ever serve in elected office?

Second, "Communist company"? Communism is the definition of government owning all commerce and matters of economic activity. In short: no such thing as a "Communist company". Yes, I'm aware that there are "companies" in China, and China is Communist. It's not the same relationship as a company and its government in the United States, not even close.

As to Nike, it's a global brand, and the only ones bemoaning the flag issue or the football player are a small sliver of the company's overall world-wide market.
This is what I've been wondering about The Bern. It used to be illegal for anyone who ever was a member of a Socialist or Communist party to have a government job. (Not illegal for general population to be members, but restricted as to employment.). Does anyone know if those laws are still on the books? How is it, that a former member of a party the US government considered to be "advocating the overthrow of the US", could be running for President?

Thanks for bringing this up. WS.
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Old 07-04-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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What he did, was solicit a company that was looking for a new home. The flag issue had nothing to do with it, except in your mind.

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Oh come on. As soon as the scumbag found out Nike was an American scumbag like him, he couldn't get on his knees fast enough, offering them a home.
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Old 07-04-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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This is what I've been wondering about The Bern. It used to be illegal for anyone who ever was a member of a Socialist or Communist party to have a government job. (Not illegal for general population to be members, but restricted as to employment.). Does anyone know if those laws are still on the books? How is it, that a former member of a party the US government considered to be "advocating the overthrow of the US", could be running for President?

Thanks for bringing this up. WS.
My old man (a lifelong democrat) once told me, when he was a kid being called a socialist was like being called the N word.

My how times have changed.
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Old 07-04-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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[quote=Tulemutt;55587768]Which is why / how we are / have been / continue to be the nation’s #1 economy and 5th among all nations of the world?

Does not compute.

Compute this.

The vast majority of all that wealth is controlled by a very few people/corporations/politicians.

With IT you have Apple, Facebook, Intel, Oracle.......

95+% of the petroleum industry and reserves is owned by Chevron

Most of the entertainment business is done by Disney, Sony and Paramount. And outsourced to other locales.

Farmland, like housing stock (rentals, condos, hospitality) is mostly owned by far fewer entities than you know.

There's more but that's for another time.
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Old 07-04-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Compute this.

The vast majority of all that wealth is controlled by a very few people/corporations/politicians.

With IT you have Apple, Facebook, Intel, Oracle.......

95+% of the petroleum industry and reserves is owned by Chevron

Most of the entertainment business is done by Disney, Sony and Paramount. And outsourced to other locales.

Farmland, like housing stock (rentals, condos, hospitality) is mostly owned by far fewer entities than you know.

There's more but that's for another time.
Lol. Doesn’t make any difference if huge slices of the pie are controlled by few people. There are 40 million consumers in the state entwined in the cash flows. That is, in case you hadn’t considered it, the nation’s largest consumer market ... one larger than a great many world nations. THAT creates the venue for ten thousand (at least) smaller businesses, as well as the single best market for the big boys.

I wish it weren’t so. I’d be happy as a clam at high tide if most left. But they haven’t. And they won’t.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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IMO, Kap was not being honest with his recent initial objection re the flag, and that his lack of past action and his Tweet today demonstate that.

What would seem to me would be be a more honest statement on his part would be that he doesn't like, for lack of a better term, 'the current climate', and that he doesn't like the way the Betsy Ross flag makes him feel about the current climate.

Why do I say this?

Because Obama had two prominent Betsy Ross flags as part of the backdrop at his 2013 inauguration and I can't find anything re Kap objecting to that...in 2013 or otherwise (to the point, only in 2013 would matter). If it was only about the flag itself, and not the way the current climate makes him feel (vs. the climate in 2013) then there is no logical reason why he wouldn't have objected in 2013 as well. He went through K-12 in California, and UNR in Nevada. I don't think it is reasonable to believe he wouldn't have learned about the Betsy Ross flag by the time he was 22, which was before 2013.

Kap Tweeted (today) a quote from Frederick Douglass:

"What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? This Fourth of July is yours, not mine...There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour."
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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wow, that Kapernick guy must be something special to get this level of say into what Nike does and does not do.

I bet if Kapernick was white and pro-America, newsome would never have spoken up. I bet if the sponsored person was an illegal, he probably would have gotten a tax-free deal altogether + his feet washed by the governor himself.

But that's just a guess, going by the governor's first few months in office.

God help us.
His birth mother is white.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Which is why / how we are / have been / continue to be the nation’s #1 economy and 5th among all nations of the world?

Does not compute.
Yet we have the highest poverty level of any state at around 19%.

Now THAT does not compute.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Yet we have the highest poverty level of any state at around 19%.

Now THAT does not compute.
Nope, no way. Mississippi, Louisiana and New Mexico have CA beat, by far. They're at the bottom. CA ranks in the middle. Even if we took your fictional figure verbatim, those other states would still have CA beat.

Read it and weep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_poverty_rate
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Old 07-04-2019, 09:19 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Yet we have the highest poverty level of any state at around 19%.

Now THAT does not compute.
It actually computes perfectly. Extraordinary success creates collateral marginalization.

I didn’t praise our success. I don’t like what it brings. I’m simply reporting the reality. The post I responded to, like so many others, sounds the alarm of doom. It’s bullcrap. Businesses will always exist and thrive where there are millions of people with even halfway decent incomes. Businesses in California also thrive on the extraordinary concentration of educated talent. Even if 35% or 50% were in poverty, there’s still so many who aren’t - the market can’t be / won’t be left unattended.

Our success also pushes the less competitive to the margins. Sad fact of life.
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