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Maybe the answer is to make it harder to get welfare. Unless you have small children, you must attend a vocational training program or enroll in community college (either of which would be paid for by Pell Grants) to keep the welfare benefits flowing.
You already have to have children to receive cash welfare benefits. And then once the children reach a certain age you have to participate in work related activities. If the employers are still refusing to employ you then you lose everything.
Some unemployed already have college degrees. If you already have a college degree then you're not eligible for student financial aid.
Well those McDonald workers that walked out for $15/hour must be sitting pretty now with no job.
McDonalds is renovating their stores....6-8 self serve kiosks and 1-2 cashier stations.
And yet if workers historically and presently never stood up for themselves they'd be making close to nothing anyway. And working 16 hour days 6 days a week, leaving them no time or real money to buy anything anyway.
And yet if workers historically and presently never stood up for themselves they'd be making close to nothing anyway. And working 16 hour days 6 days a week, leaving them no time or real money to buy anything anyway.
Well most are capped at 29 hours/week due to ACA mandate. Not many working 16 hour shifts at McDonalds.
The best way to initiate change is to leave for a job with better pay. When the employer is impacted directly by lack of employees then they will offer better pay.
Supply and demand. Why would employers do anything different if they have a waiting list of potential employees willing to work there under those conditions ?
It seems like some folks feel going on strike because of income is okay, but if sellers complain about that strike because it's impacting their income, it's unacceptable.
Sounds like selective empathy.
I used to sell on Amazon years ago. I got put out of that business because Amazon changed a policy and started requiring the merchandise to be obtained a certain way that costs a significant amount of money that I could never obtain. I was a smaller level seller. I used to obtain merchandise in ways that were different and I'd put them on Amazon and double or triple my money at the least. It was how I stayed afloat since I couldn't work a job. I totally understand the OP's ire, but people like the OP didn't have any compassion for me when I was forced out of business and put in even worse situation. Nope, no compassion for the smaller sellers from anyone at all. Instead, when I expressed how devastating it was going to be for me I was taunted by the larger sellers online while they went on about how if you didn't have the money to comply then you deserved to be out of business and Amazon booted me and others like me from their message boards so that it would no longer be shown how their decision was impacting people like me. There were probably a lot of us. So, I understand the OP but I don't feel any compassion. I figure it's karma unfolding. The strike will end though and he'll recover but people like me were never able to get back what we lost.
Well most are capped at 29 hours/week due to ACA mandate. Not many working 16 hour shifts at McDonalds. The best way to initiate change is to leave for a job with better pay. When the employer is impacted directly by lack of employees then they will offer better pay.
Supply and demand. Why would employers do anything different if they have a waiting list of potential employees willing to work there under those conditions ?
The ACA doesn't cap them at 29 hours a week, greedy employers being unwilling to provide health insurance to full time employees does. And you can thank labour laws for 16 hour shifts not being the norm...laws that only happened because working people actually fought for them rather than meekly bending over for their employer and hoping they find a new job paying 2 cents more per hour during the limited time they had to job hunt.
Regarding the bolded... how did that turn out during the Industrial Revolution and in third world countries nowadays?
Without unions or laws, workers will ALWAYS be at a fundamental disadvantage when it comes to negotiations. There will always be more people who need to pay bills to survive than there will be companies.
The ACA doesn't cap them at 29 hours a week, greedy employers being unwilling to provide health insurance to full time employees does. And you can thank labour laws for 16 hour shifts not being the norm...laws that only happened because working people actually fought for them rather than meekly bending over for their employer and hoping they find a new job paying 2 cents more per hour during the limited time they had to job hunt.
Regarding the bolded... how did that turn out during the Industrial Revolution and in third world countries nowadays?
Without unions or laws, workers will ALWAYS be at a fundamental disadvantage when it comes to negotiations. There will always be more people who need to pay bills to survive than there will be companies.
Well if that ACA mandate wasn't in place they could work 39 hours like they used to.
So now they have 10 less hours per week because the government "stepped in to help".
I used to sell on Amazon years ago. I got put out of that business because Amazon changed a policy and started requiring the merchandise to be obtained a certain way that costs a significant amount of money that I could never obtain. I was a smaller level seller. I used to obtain merchandise in ways that were different and I'd put them on Amazon and double or triple my money at the least. It was how I stayed afloat since I couldn't work a job. I totally understand the OP's ire, but people like the OP didn't have any compassion for me when I was forced out of business and put in even worse situation. Nope, no compassion for the smaller sellers from anyone at all. Instead, when I expressed how devastating it was going to be for me I was taunted by the larger sellers online while they went on about how if you didn't have the money to comply then you deserved to be out of business and Amazon booted me and others like me from their message boards so that it would no longer be shown how their decision was impacting people like me. There were probably a lot of us. So, I understand the OP but I don't feel any compassion. I figure it's karma unfolding. The strike will end though and he'll recover but people like me were never able to get back what we lost.
There are lots of selling platforms besides Amazon now. Some require you sell locally and some offer a shipping option. I network with a lot of people who put products out there on multiple platforms at the same time and they get good results from them. So you can still do what you did before elsewhere. And I only brought up my FBA business because another person claimed I get nothing from Amazon so why should I care what is going on there.
I do have compassion for people but when they get concessions and keep demanding more and more there is a point where its just ridiculous. It seems like nothing will appease these people.That was my point. I have a relative that just began her teaching career and her starting pay is in the same range as these Amazon workers. And she has a degree with teaching credentials.
I have had a few employees like these workers over the years that you cannot never please. And in the case of these fulfillment workers there will be a point when its more cost effective to automate their job. I am just pointing out the obvious. And like I have said a few times I really believe this is a union power play and they are just using these workers.
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