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Old 07-12-2019, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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The Democrats are for open borders. They want the demographics changed. Make them citizens. Get their votes for the next 100 years. If this country gets flushed down the socialist toilet then so be it. If these illegals came over and would be Republicans you would see a wall in a year.
And drones with laser guided missiles, landmines stretching from California to Florida, and the death penalty.

Democrats are absolutely for open borders. They’re actions (or lack thereof) and policies reaffirm it.

 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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If someone tells you that they dont want something, why would you insist that they do? Sounds pretty dishonest to me.
Because 1. people lie and 2. actions speak louder than words.

The democrats are for open borders.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Trumplings seem to think that if anyone or anything is able to cross the border, it's "open."

99% have probably never been within 100 miles of the border. A big chunk of that 99% can't fathom that there's nearly a billion dollars in commerce that passes over the border each day.

This is how "open" it is, with wait times for vehicles stretching sometimes over two hours.

That kind of congestion, ironically enough, allows more 18 wheelers carrying illegal labor to sneak through because the CBP system is stretched beyond its limits and can't check every truck entering from Mexico - they just randomly select them for x-ray screening while most just pass through with only a look at their paperwork.

tRump's wall wouldn't do anything about this.

You just have to be within 50 feet of a television set during a Democrat presidential nominee debate.

I’ve never been to the moon but know a bit about it.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:34 AM
 
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Because 1. people lie and 2. actions speak louder than words.

The democrats are for open borders.
Reminds me of a great quote to use the next time a leftist insists they're not for open borders: "Your actions are screaming so loudly that I can't hear what you're saying."
 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Reminds me of a great quote to use the next time a leftist insists they're not for open borders: "Your actions are screaming so loudly that I can't hear what you're saying."
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Rachel976 again".

Rachel you wore out the button, LOL
 
Old 07-13-2019, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hopefully that also applies for 99% of open border leftists who have never been within 100 miles of the border but they seem to know what’s going on at the border?
That border has never been less open than it is presently. It's been a whole lot tighter since the early 90s. And after 9/11, it tightened up a lot more.

But simpletons will tell you "it's open."

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You just have to be within 50 feet of a television set during a Democrat presidential nominee debate.
Well, within 50 feet of a TV tuned to Hannity or a radio tuned to Limpbaugh.
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I’ve never been to the moon but know a bit about it.
Because others have been there.

But be careful.

That's some of the science stuff you boys reject, remember?

Again, Trumplings seem to think that allowing commerce to cross that border both ways is "an open border" and that tRump's wall will somehow "close" it.

Every complex issue has a simple, easy to understand "solution" that won't work.

But that "solution" appeals to those whose info comes in sound bytes.

 
Old 07-13-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Rachel976 again".

Rachel you wore out the button, LOL
Thanks, BeerGeek. (And same here!)
 
Old 07-13-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Reminds me of a great quote to use the next time a leftist insists they're not for open borders: "Your actions are screaming so loudly that I can't hear what you're saying."
As always Democrats and their progressive followers DECEIVE. They KNOW they can't call it "Open Borders" so they push for AMNESTY, free healthcare, free college, and welfare benefits. So effectively they incentivize coming here ILLEGALLY with no penalty. That is OPEN BORDERS. They are just liars, pure and simple.

This is why the MEDIA and Democrats deflect and use terms like "Immigrants" and "Migrants" for ILLEGAL ALIENS to make those that don't want Open Borders seem anti LEGAL immigrant. That is totally false and deceptive.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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If Dems truly cared about open borders, they would pass legislation making it legal. They won't, of course, because they'd be thrown out office during the next election. Instead, they blame anybody but themselves, usually Trump.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
That border has never been less open than it is presently. It's been a whole lot tighter since the early 90s. And after 9/11, it tightened up a lot more.

But simpletons will tell you "it's open."



Well, within 50 feet of a TV tuned to Hannity or a radio tuned to Limpbaugh.
Because others have been there.

But be careful.

That's some of the science stuff you boys reject, remember?

Again, Trumplings seem to think that allowing commerce to cross that border both ways is "an open border" and that tRump's wall will somehow "close" it.

Every complex issue has a simple, easy to understand "solution" that won't work.

But that "solution" appeals to those whose info comes in sound bytes.


Were there any amnesty (beside from the one in 1986) for illegals before 9/11? what about free healthcare? how about abolish ICE/CBP? What about decriminalizing illegal border crossing? how about sanctuary state?

am I missing anything else?
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