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Old 07-15-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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But then the alternative is Donald Trump. The Democrats could nominate a serial killer and still run a competitive race.


Well, that's pretty much what y'all did last time.....



And look what happened.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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If his base has not abandoned him by now, they are his no matter what he does.

All anybody needs to know about the official Republican Party need do is look at Paul Ryan.

Anybody who thought the Tea Party faction was all about a balanced budget and/or no more deficit spending needs to rethink their opinion.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Yet Trump goes out of his way to alienate large segments of the population with gratuitous insults and hate filled rants. Some see this as a brilliant strategy of shoring up his base. I see it as Trump shooting himself in the foot. The economy is strong. Markets are up. Business is good. Trump should be riding high but can't reach even 50% approval rating. Why do you suppose that is?



Not everyone sees what you see.

Not everyone thinks the things Trump says are "Hate".

The Left has done their level best to run their entire platform on finding "hate" under every rock.

I have a little clue for you:

The America that I know is sick of it.

Sick of identity politics.

Sick of political correctness.

Sick of being told what horrible people they are for wanting to enforce the rule of law and protect our borders

Sick of being told that they are single handedly responsible for all the evils of the world.

Did you guys not learn anything at all from Hillary's "deplorables" campaign?

Calling the people you want to vote for you racist Nazi pigs is not a good way to win friends and influence people.


And it's certainly not going to help you win this election any more than it did the last one.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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I thought this was a 2016 topic
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Not everyone sees what you see.

Not everyone thinks the things Trump says are "Hate".

The Left has done their level best to run their entire platform on finding "hate" under every rock.

I have a little clue for you:

The America that I know is sick of it.

Sick of identity politics.

Sick of political correctness.

Sick of being told what horrible people they are for wanting to enforce the rule of law and protect our borders

Sick of being told that they are single handedly responsible for all the evils of the world.

Did you guys not learn anything at all from Hillary's "deplorables" campaign?

Calling the people you want to vote for you racist Nazi pigs is not a good way to win friends and influence people.


And it's certainly not going to help you win this election any more than it did the last one.
Obviously you won't answer my question but I'll ask it again anyway: With the economy strong, business good, and markets up, why can't Trump reach even 50% favorable approval rating? Any other president with this economy would be at 70% plus. But not Trump. Why is that?
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Obviously you won't answer my question but I'll ask it again anyway: With the economy strong, business good, and markets up, why can't Trump reach even 50% favorable approval rating? Any other president with this economy would be at 70% plus. But not Trump. Why is that?


Poll takers skew polls to get the results they want.

And they also have a complicit media running the DNC campaign for them 24/7 , telling the whole world what horrible person Trump is for taking two scoops of ice cream and doing the Chicken Little dance over literally everything Trump says and does

In the almost 40 years that I've been voting, I've never been polled once......so why should I, or anyone else, take any stock in polls?

Besides, when was the last time any president polled at 70%?
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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He's not a man. Anyone who deserves to be called a man does act that way and steal from fellow Americans at a bogus university. That has to be explained to you? Where and how were you raised? Sad for you that you consider a spineless slimy worm your standard bearer.
I was raised with white privilege to work hard, pay your own way and not leach off the government, obey the laws, teach your children, sacrifice for family, hate no one, save and invest for the future, help others when they need it....in other words, the opposite of lying demonicrats.
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Poll takers skew polls to get the results they want.

And they also have a complicit media running the DNC campaign for them 24/7 , telling the whole world what horrible person Trump is for taking two scoops of ice cream and doing the Chicken Little dance over literally everything Trump says and does

In the almost 40 years that I've been voting, I've never been polled once......so why should I, or anyone else, take any stock in polls?

Besides, when was the last time any president polled at 70%?
Weak sauce.
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Poll takers skew polls to get the results they want.

And they also have a complicit media running the DNC campaign for them 24/7 , telling the whole world what horrible person Trump is for taking two scoops of ice cream.

In the almost 40 years that I've been voting, I've never been polled once......so why should I, or anyone else, take any stock in polls?

Besides, when was the last time any president polled at 70%?
Obama's highest rating: 69%
Bush II: 90%
Clinton: 73%
Bush I: 89%
Reagan: 71%
Carter: 74%
Ford: 70%








Trump: 46%
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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If his base has not abandoned him by now, they are his no matter what he does.

All anybody needs to know about the official Republican Party need do is look at Paul Ryan.

Anybody who thought the Tea Party faction was all about a balanced budget and/or no more deficit spending needs to rethink their opinion.
But why continue to pander to them when, as you say they are locked in at the expense of planting doubts in the minds of those more moderate?
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