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Old Today, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...asylum-seekers

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The Trump administration on Monday announced a sweeping new policy tightening restrictions for asylum seekers, in a move that could drastically reduce the number of Central American migrants eligible to enter the United States in this way.

The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through America’s southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed – whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.

"Ultimately, today's action will reduce the overwhelming burdens on our domestic system caused by asylum-seekers failing to seek urgent protection in the first available country, economic migrants lacking a legitimate fear of persecution, and the transnational criminal organizations, traffickers, and smugglers exploiting our system for profits,” Homeland Security Acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan said in a statement, describing the "targeted changes" as critical.
Great to see a president finally showing some leadership to address this broken system. We finally have an approach that is humane to asylum seekers (this will keep them from our inhumane "concentration camps"), and, more importantly, protect American citizens from the flood of often illiterate, unskilled asylum seekers flooding our country. And last but not least-it protects the taxpayer from the need to provide for this flood of "caravaners".
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Old Today, 09:24 AM
 
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Great to see a president finally showing some leadership to address this broken system. We finally have an approach that is humane to asylum seekers (this will keep them from our inhumane "concentration camps"), and, more importantly, protect American citizens from the flood of often illiterate, unskilled asylum seekers flooding our country. And last but not least-it protects the taxpayer from the need to provide for this flood of "caravaners".
Not sure he won't face legal challenges on this one. The U.S. allows asylum to those on American soil.
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Old Today, 09:33 AM
 
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It will put coyotes out of work, or at least slow it way down. And the children being used again and again no longer. Win win. Right?
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Old Today, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Isn't this already a thing? It makes no sense that someone could walk thousands of miles through several countries just to claim asylum in the US. I thought they had to claim it in the next country over?





Well this is a start but will it do any good when their ultimate goal is to get to the US to take advantage of our gullible generosity. This might slow down the caravans and put the coyotes out of work but how will we know if someone follows the new law? They lie now by grabbing some kids and claiming them as their own. They lie about their names to escape arrest warrants in their homelands. They lie about how bad it is at home for them and how much they fear for their lives.



If this new law does get passed the Democrats will just do their best to block it.
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Old Today, 10:03 AM
 
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Isn't this already a thing? It makes no sense that someone could walk thousands of miles through several countries just to claim asylum in the US. I thought they had to claim it in the next country over?





Well this is a start but will it do any good when their ultimate goal is to get to the US to take advantage of our gullible generosity. This might slow down the caravans and put the coyotes out of work but how will we know if someone follows the new law? They lie now by grabbing some kids and claiming them as their own. They lie about their names to escape arrest warrants in their homelands. They lie about how bad it is at home for them and how much they fear for their lives.



If this new law does get passed the Democrats will just do their best to block it.
Yes, it is already a thing. I quoted directly from the gov pages many months back that stated that asylum seekers were to request that in the first country that they came to - yet here we are, the left all pi$$y about something that was already written.
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Old Today, 10:06 AM
 
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Ceding U.S. law for International law. I thought this was always wrong?
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Old Today, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Isn't this already a thing? It makes no sense that someone could walk thousands of miles through several countries just to claim asylum in the US. I thought they had to claim it in the next country over?





Well this is a start but will it do any good when their ultimate goal is to get to the US to take advantage of our gullible generosity. This might slow down the caravans and put the coyotes out of work but how will we know if someone follows the new law? They lie now by grabbing some kids and claiming them as their own. They lie about their names to escape arrest warrants in their homelands. They lie about how bad it is at home for them and how much they fear for their lives.



If this new law does get passed the Democrats will just do their best to block it.
My understanding is that it's a matter of semantics. If they "apply" in other nations, currently they are applying for "refugee status". That requires that they do so in the first "safe" country they come to. Once they get into our country it's "asylum".

And you're undoubtedly right, the left will continue their 2 year temper tantrum.
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Old Today, 11:29 AM
 
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This is already the international standard for how asylum works - you go to the first safe country you can. In this case, it's Mexico, which for all its problems, has made tremendous progress over the past 30 years and is now a relatively rich and safe country, particularly compared to the northern triangle of countries.

There is no reason they should be making their way to the United States for asylum. If they wish to try to immigrate to the US under the legal immigration system, for school, financial reasons, etc, more power to them, but they should not be taking advantage of the asylum system.
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Old Today, 11:30 AM
 
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Not sure he won't face legal challenges on this one. The U.S. allows asylum to those on American soil.
Not anymore, it would seem.
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Old Today, 11:56 AM
 
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Not anymore, it would seem.
Trump doesn't make the determination. A federal judge does. Trump can't say "this law no longer exists".
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