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View Poll Results: Support D.C. statehood?
Yes. End taxation without representation. 17 22.67%
No. Must prevent Democrat reps from being added at all costs. 17 22.67%
No. Explain reason if other than above. 41 54.67%
Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Yesterday, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Undecided. The concept of D.C. was to provide 'neutral territory', but I do get the point of 'no representation'.

I'd probably have to look more into the pros and cons, and maybe even some possible third options before I could say.
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Old Today, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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I compared them to being a city not a state.
I'm comparing them to cities too. Residents of all American cities, except for DC residents, get to vote for senators/representatives that can cast votes in congress.
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Old Today, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Perhaps Americans don't know that America is NOT a democracy, and taxation without representation was a gripe with the BRITS, not with the American government.

Under America's republican form of government, people with endowed rights are not taxed, lest those rights be taxed out of existence. ONLY government privileges are subject to tax. So there is no need for "representation" before the authority to impose a tax. The only prerequisite is CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.

As to the legal status of the District of Columbia, the United States, in Congress assembled, needed a place to exercise exclusive jurisdiction, and not be subject to a host state. That is why the city of Washington, district of Columbia, can never, ever be a state in union with the united States of America. To be a state would evict the federal government. And if the federal government ever dissolves, DC reverts back to Maryland.
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Old Today, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Take off our partisan hats and look at this for a solution that does right by D.C citizens. Because taxation without representation is total b.s.

Carve out the Federal buildings as "neutral territory" islands and make all of the neighborhoods where D.C. residents live as a separate entity.

Then let the D.C. citizens vote for the resolution they'd prefer. It should be up to them to decide whether they want to become part of another state or become their own state. And if they decide to join, say Maryland, then the Maryland voters should also vote on it...absorbing the 700k D.C. population would have some far-reaching repercussions on Maryland's budget, politics, etc.
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Old Today, 10:51 AM
 
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This would require a constitutional amendment, which is not forthcoming.

DC, as noted above, is a federal district, not a state, for obvious reasons.

If DC residents want representation, there is no inherent barrier to the State of Maryland extending voting rights to them for that purpose. Otherwise, there simply is no compelling argument whatsoever for making a state out of a federal district.
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Old Today, 10:56 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No. The flag wouldn’t look right with 51 stars and the old 50 star flag would immediately be deemed racist.
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Old Today, 10:58 AM
 
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No. The flag wouldn’t look right with 51 stars and the old 50 star flag would immediately be deemed racist.

Yes, such a difference. Looks nothing at all like the current flag.
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Old Today, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NJ
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DC born and bred here.

I support voting rights. Turn the DC Delegate into a Congressperson.
Dc voted 94% for Hillary, so sure, make them a state with legislative represntatives.


Dems are on a roll, eliminate electoral college, dump the constitution, have illegal aliens vote, cast stets vote for winner of popular vote.... what else, give questions to be asked to their candidates? How about rigging primary elections to chose who the dem hierarchy wants and not the people.


Restore voting rights to the Boston Bomber. Restore voting rights so gang members will vote for dems which want to pass stricter gun laws, making a career in crime safer for the criminals.
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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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Of course, there is the whole "taxation without representation" argument, which I do agree has merit. But the solution is obvious to anyone who has an understanding of how our Congress was originally intended to function, at least before the 17th Amendment mucked things up. It's simple: the House of Representatives represents PEOPLE and the Senate represents STATES. Thus, there should be Congressmen, the number of whom would be based on Washington's population, who would be elected to represent the people who live there. (Sure, they'd all be Democrats; but that's the way the cookie crumbles.) But D.C. should never have Senators, because D.C. is not a State and it should never be one.
This is a logical solution. DC is too small to be a state, but should have Representatives (but not Senators).
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Old Today, 11:14 AM
 
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Yeah something like that could make more sense. But I'd like to see some solution that gets the 4+ million citizens in D.C. and the territories some real representation.
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