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Old 07-15-2019, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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What a disgrace! Both parties are guilty of selling out Americans.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...xposes-silicon

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Silicon Valley says it loves diversity, but the industry only wants workers from one country — and it’s not America.

An estimated 71 percent of the workforce in Silicon Valley is foreign-born. The majority are Indian nationals; nearly 70 percent of those who come on H-1B visas — a favorite of Big Tech — hail from India. Additionally, many tech firms have a sizable presence in India itself.

And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.

 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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“And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.”

As someone who works in tech in Silicon Valley, I’m telling you that this statement is not correct. People from india are offered just as much as US citizens. Moreover, the US has such a shortage of engineers that without Indians and Asians coming over, the US would not currently be to top country for tech development.
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:27 PM
 
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“And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.”

As someone who works in tech in Silicon Valley, I’m telling you that this statement is not correct. People from india are offered just as much as US citizens. Moreover, the US has such a shortage of engineers that without Indians and Asians coming over, the US would not currently be to top country for tech development.
BS. Maybe the Indians you work with, but there are entire departments of Indians working on the cheap.
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:32 PM
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“And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.”

As someone who works in tech in Silicon Valley, I’m telling you that this statement is not correct. People from india are offered just as much as US citizens. Moreover, the US has such a shortage of engineers that without Indians and Asians coming over, the US would not currently be to top country for tech development.
RIGHT...ask the millions of AMERICAN coders without jobs.

Oh...remember Steve Jobs approving that the Chinese Government could ORDER all the Apple workers to show up on the weekend and fix the IPHONE. Jobs said it was the reason that Apple would NOT move manufacturing back to the US. NOPE, he wanted a COMMUNIST government that could control the workers to assure that Jobs got his fix to the IPHONE in time.

Really folks.....CORPORATE TECH in AMERICA is EVIL.

Time to face up to it as a country and deal with it.

Oh...for you Silicon Valley types....yeah, Hitler and Mussolini got the trains to run on time. But at least there was still some privacy in Nazi Germany unlike the USA Today with Facebook and Google.

So if Hitler was evil....how evil are Apple and Google??
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by neko_mimi View Post
“And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.”

As someone who works in tech in Silicon Valley, I’m telling you that this statement is not correct. People from india are offered just as much as US citizens. Moreover, the US has such a shortage of engineers that without Indians and Asians coming over, the US would not currently be to top country for tech development.
+1

I've been on the hiring side of things at several tech companies. Salary wasn't any different for someone here on a visa. A truly outsourced position working for a 3rd party company in India is cheaper, sure. But we preferred citizens over visa workers because the whole visa sponsorship thing can be a real headache.

There are not enough people in the domestic workforce interested in Computer Science. Not that I'm complaining, keeps my salary high.
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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+1

I've been on the hiring side of things at several tech companies. Salary wasn't any different for someone here on a visa. A truly outsourced position working for a 3rd party company in India is cheaper, sure. But we preferred citizens over visa workers because the whole visa sponsorship thing can be a real headache.
So then why do tech companies bank roll these politicians and lobbyists?
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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So then why do tech companies bank roll these politicians and lobbyists?
Because the need is real?
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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“And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.”

As someone who works in tech in Silicon Valley, I’m telling you that this statement is not correct. People from india are offered just as much as US citizens. Moreover, the US has such a shortage of engineers that without Indians and Asians coming over, the US would not currently be to top country for tech development.
I agree.

The Indian population is 1.3 billion, students that graduate from any of the ITT universities are among the most capable in the world. Just look at the difficulty of JEE exams vs. the SAT or ACT, there is no comparison. Sure, there are some poor Indian software engineers, but there are so many brilliant ones that the US needs in order to keep growing the economy.
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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RIGHT...ask the millions of AMERICAN coders without jobs.
Where are these millions of coders without jobs? We desperately need them right now. And no, just having a computer science degree does not make someone a coder.
 
Old 07-15-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Where are these millions of coders without jobs? We desperately need them right now. And no, just having a computer science degree does not make someone a coder.
Plenty of Americans without CS degrees can code as well. Just because you're a loser in India if you don't study engineering doesn't mean we should import them. Many of them are terrible engineers.
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