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Old 07-16-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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What makes an Australian different than you? Where they live? Taken to it's conclusion, you are arguing your next door neighbor is different than you.

It's all simply human beings.
What is so bad about people being different? Is it a sin?

 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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God will judge if I am a racist. I have always treated black people with kindness and respect. I have no white guilt. I never oppressed any black person, yet I had a black person oppress me at a position I held and it was unjust . I never thought about it in race terms before but since the left wants to divide us in colors I was oppressed by a black person. I used to think of it as just a person.
At least you admit to being oppressed.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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What is so bad about people being different? Is it a sin?
Nothing wrong with you liking Ford's and your neighbor liking Chevy's but you know darn well that is not the argument.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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I have at least one ancestor who died fighting for the north during the Civil War, I have yet to have the urge to ask black people to thank me for that. I wouldn't expect it, nor would someone even think to do it, nor would I deserve it, since I had nothing to do with it.
Exactly. I know my genealogy very well and in the 400+ years since my ancestors began arriving not one of them owned slaves nor did any of them live anywhere further south or further west than Northern NJ. They were farmers and mill workers and soldiers who built and served this country and I have nothing to apologize for. Given where most of them lived in New England and Quebec, many of my ancestors likely never even knew a black person. I've never lived anywhere that wasn't approximately 100% white and sit here today not knowing any black people, yet some would have me apologize for the supposed sins against black people committed by myself and my ancestors? Or are they expecting me to apologize simply because I am white and thus guilty via some form of original sin.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with you liking Ford's and your neighbor liking Chevy's but you know darn well that is not the argument.
And that argument remains a matter of convenience. Acknowledging differences is just too darned complex, so let's simplify it into "we are all just people."
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I kinda wonder what Desert Detroiter, Residing Here and Green Mariner think. You know, actual black people.

So let me ask them if they see this.

What do you think?
Would you be all weirded out?
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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I kinda wonder what Desert Detroiter, Residing Here and Green Mariner think. You know, actual black people.

So let me ask them if they see this.

What do you think?
Would you be all weirded out?
What they think shouldn't matter. Just as black people shouldn't concern themselves over what white people think.

I would be black, but because I do not align myself with the posters mentioned here, not black enough, I guess.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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And that argument remains a matter of convenience. Acknowledging differences is just too darned complex, so let's simplify it into "we are all just people."
We are. If you have a further argument, why not make it?
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Jeez where's Candace Owens when you need her?
 
Old 07-16-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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We are. If you have a further argument, why not make it?
"We are" what? Different? "Just people" means no need to observe differences? That's convenient.
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