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Old 07-16-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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ACTUALLY - this is not a 'new' concept.

And it doesn't just apply to Math but teaching in general.

There is some truth.
It's like the book Pete and Jane - or whatever our first readers were -- they were based on a very specific lifestyle.

For many it was what we identified with as children but for many it was another world.

It's okay to recognize that and try to figure out how we can make education resemble the real world.
Hooray! Someone actually read the article! I like the comparison to elementary readers.

There's no reason why teaching methods can't be more inclusive and equitable. That's not giving any one person more than another, or dumbing down, or favoring one group over another ; instead, it's ensuring everyone has the same opportunity to learn.

 
Old 07-16-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Hooray! Someone actually read the article! I like the comparison to elementary readers.

There's no reason why teaching methods can't be more inclusive and equitable. That's not giving any one person more than another, or dumbing down, or favoring one group over another ; instead, it's ensuring everyone has the same opportunity to learn.
How does one make memorizing multiplication tables "more inclusive" ?

It's funny to watch people throw around all these PC words. So give us an example.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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So much for the days of having a set of teaching/learning requirements for each grade. If you excelled they put you in an advanced class. I you couldn't keep up then a remedial class. Slowing down the entire class just so everyone can pass is dumbing down our society. Math was meant to be difficult.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Does that mean Math Test Scores are adjusted for the race, gender, and/or ethnicity of the student?
Not directly but scores required to get in colleges or special programs at those schools, even at public universities are lower\higher based on race\gender.

Not sure if that was what you were getting at, I figured that was widely acknowledged.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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One beautiful thing about math, at least below the 300 level theoretical university stuff.

No interpretation. The answer is the answer. Race makes no difference whatsoever.

Yes.

Math is math, and it's the same, wherever applied. Not surprisingly, that's exactly why it's "racist" in the minds of some on the left.

When there's no excuse for one's failure to master something as rudimentary and important mathematics, one must be manufactured.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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SJWs are not smarter than a fifth grader.
What if the SJW was a 5th grader?
 
Old 07-16-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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"Math equity" is now a term trumped up by the SJW/PC crowd referring to the growing insistence among math educators that teaching mathematics in classrooms comes with inherently biased racist methodology that must be addressed.

Furthermore, the SJW/PC crowd in favor of "math equity" stresses the importance of social justice warrior issues such as race, diversity, and gender when it comes to mathematics education.

According to the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics, "“It (Math equity) requires mathematics teachers to reflect on their own identity, positions, and beliefs in regards to racist and sorting-based mechanisms. It involves noticing students, learning about the worlds they live in, and building mathematics that comes from these worlds. And finally, it involves engaging other educators in partnerships to build equity-oriented communities."

More about how math is racist can be found in the article linked below:

Article
It's nothing more then a sad excuse for low test scores.
Rather than attack the source of the problem...kids and their parents..make up a reason why minorities do poorly at math.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Slightly off topic but there has been talk of reforming the English language, particularly spelling, to make it easier for non-English speakers to the USA and use English correctly. I don't agree with dumbing down the language.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So much for the days of having a set of teaching/learning requirements for each grade. If you excelled they put you in an advanced class. I you couldn't keep up then a remedial class. Slowing down the entire class just so everyone can pass is dumbing down our society. Math was meant to be difficult.
Math is math. It's not difficult for everyone.
 
Old 07-16-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Math wasn't something exclusively created or used by European whites.

The Arabic numerals we all use originated in India.

There is nothing inherently racist about mathematics.

It could well be that in poor communities there isn't enough quality math education. This would affect anyone in a poor community, regardless of their race. I've also heard (though not confirmed) that homeschooled kids entering college struggle in math and have lower math scores on the SAT, ACT tests.
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