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Old Yesterday, 07:30 PM
 
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Here is what metoo is about. It is about helping people understand that it IS how things go down OFTEN. That Is It.
What you have is a small minority of men who blatantly step out of line and then suddenly it is "all men are rapists" which materially false. Half of the male population is scared to death of women and couldn't get laid in a ***** house.
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Old Yesterday, 07:30 PM
 
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What is metoo?
A passing fart in the wind.
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Old Yesterday, 07:31 PM
 
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What you have is a small minority of men who blatantly step out of line and then suddenly it is "all men are rapists" which materially false. Half of the male population is scared to death of women and couldn't get laid in a ***** house.

It is just the regular SJW propaganda against straight males. Most feminists absolutely hate straight males. "Equality" is the smokescreen they like to use, but subversion is what they are really about.
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Old Yesterday, 07:32 PM
 
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Trump and Epstein agree.
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Old Yesterday, 07:35 PM
 
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Sigh. "Getting hit on by guys you don't find appealing." You, sir, are a prince. /s

When I was young and good looking, I got hit on by women I found repulsive.

Didn't feel any need to dial up Gloria Allred.
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Old Today, 03:01 AM
 
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My post is not a "distraction" no matter how much you want to pretend that there aren't females out there who say "all males are rapists". You know damn good and well that there's a lot of them, so stop the nonsense.
I know what I know. I don't know whom you see saying this. All women are false accusers now but all men are not rapists? Of course that makes no sense. There are all kinds of people in the world. And that some of them have a lot of anger at men, I have no doubt.

That is not what the metoo movements was about.
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Old Today, 03:26 AM
 
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It is just the regular SJW propaganda against straight males. Most feminists absolutely hate straight males. "Equality" is the smokescreen they like to use, but subversion is what they are really about.
I am a feminist. I love straight men. Well, I love men. And the only ones I get to sleep with are straight.

I agree with Sonic that the word feminist is almost meaningless now. But I don't know what other word to use.

We women who think a certain way don't hate straight men. Most of us give birth to straight boys who turn into straight men. What? We hate them? We actively engage in subverting them from their birth? Pro tip: A mamma who wanted to do that would have a pretty east time. Scary but true, there ARE some people out there who inadvertently (we hope) DO do that. Give man shame at their boys. There are so many ways we parents can be awful and evil to our kids if we are broken ourselves. But the vast majority of us do no such thing.

I was talking to a really good friend of mine. Straight man. He was sort of stuck in this -- it's all about man hate and blaming men thing. A playful dope slap to the head would have been nice to sort the whole thing out. But alas we had to have a conversation. It was a difficult one for him.

I recounted my many stories of sexual abuse at the hands of men from quite a young age. From being molested as a young teenager by a person of authority at the school. To having to walk across the street to avoid the men who would regularly cat-call me as I walked home from work. (I began working at 13 since it was the dark ages back then and one could get a job with parent's permission at that age back then.) Their calls were 1) aimed at a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL (me) and 2) threatening in language and body language.

Sexual aggression was a thing in high school. The mindset of push past the no to a plausibly deniable maybe yes-ish was the modus operandi of many of the boys at school. You could hear them "locker room" talk about "how far they had gotten" when they were not being too careful.

Then as a quite young adult, having graduated college before my 21st birthday, things like being crammed on a NY subway like lemmings and having a guy run his hand up my skirt and attempt to insert it inside of me. One hand holding onto the loop above my head, the other holding onto my what was then called a portable computer. Pinned by bodies on all sides. No idea which of the people it was since when you look down, all you can see is the top halves of their bodies.

Being stalked on subways, chased or followed walking down the street. Once followed from the hotel restaurant where I was eating. Committing the heinous crime of being on a business trip without a male minder and trying to eat some dinner. Still in my suit to give the business message. Reading the ****ing Economist magazine so I could appear nice and boring. Followed me to my room with his hand on my door waiting me for me to open it so he could push in. Didn't speak a word of English. I don't speak a word of Italian. Of course, I am not a moron. I went right back down to the front desk to get an escort.

Being raped in my own bed by my room mates boyfriend's friend. Woken from sleep to find him on me. Unable to scream for help because... well this guy was the room mates FRIEND. Would anyone come and help me? Would he hurt me more if I did?

Wearing a wedding ring most of my life because somehow it would be disrespectful to my owner to pursue me in this way to some dudes.

The list is far longer than this. Who has time for all of them?

My friend was AGHAST. Of course, his first comment was, well you are really attractive. So wait. I should have to live like this for the sin of being born this way? Well of course not, my friend wishes he could bash anyone who ever did this to me in. But the point is, it is not like this for most women, really. This is a total aberration.

<--- That is where he is wrong. This is the message of metoo. It is NOT an aberration. The exact stories are different. And it is not limited to those who are deemed attractive. "Unattractive" women are targeted for a whole different set of behaviors with a whole different set of motives.

Are all men racists? Of course not. That is absurd. But

1) Most women have endured or continue to endure this kind of behavior on a regular basis.
2) Most women make decisions in their daily lives to limit exposure to this in their lives, their careers, their hobbies.
3) Many women protect themselves by walking the walk of attaching themselves to a male protector. Why not? That has worked for centuries. But it comes at a cost.

But most importantly, the message of metoo is that it is NOT an aberration. It is NOT about being "hit on by guys you don't find attractive" except insofar as some of these men do think that their horrible behavior is exactly that. (Then they get bitter and red pill because women are evil because they won't willingly **** them.)

My friend was pretty dumbfounded after that conversation. But he began to understand with the help of #metoos showing up everywhere the facts. The realities.

There it is.
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Old Today, 03:38 AM
 
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A passing fart in the wind.
LOL.
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Old Today, 03:40 AM
 
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...there's a new category in the DSM-5, no, not TDS it's called..Immediate Meme Anxiety Disorder..


...I-MAD...
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Old Today, 03:43 AM
 
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What you have is a small minority of men who blatantly step out of line and then suddenly it is "all men are rapists" which materially false. Half of the male population is scared to death of women and couldn't get laid in a ***** house.
I propose you go back to the cartoon and look at it again. I think you are missing the point.

But an important note about those men who are scared to death of women. Gonna tell you, they are often the ones who feel entitled to the sex they aren't getting and will do some awful stuff when no one is looking.

But the point you are missing is that these things are done by someone. To a LOT of women and regularly. So someone is doing it. Either the small minority are very prolific at their craft or more people are doing it than will admit. In either case, wouldn't it be nice to admit that it is not some fringe problem? That maybe it DOES happen way more than some men would like to admit?
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