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Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM
 
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Let's see. If a young, married Donald Trump had left a party drunk in the company of a girl, driven drunk off a bridge, swum away from the sinking car as the girl drowned inside, and waited half a day to tell anyone what had happened and where she was....

....The press would have sympathized with him, lionized him, speculated on the effect of his lawbreaking and manslaughter on his possible Presidential prospects, and even announced that the girl's horrific death was "worth it".

Correct?

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50 Years of Shame: How Journalists Protected Ted Kennedy After Chappaquiddick

By Scott Whitlock | July 16, 2019 7:00 AM EDT

Thursday marks 50 years since Ted Kennedy, the liberal Democrat from Massachusetts, drove off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island and left Mary Jo Kopechne to drown in the back seat. For decades, journalists and the TV networks downplayed the incident and portrayed the senator as the victim.

Despite the circumstances, New York Times correspondent James Reston’s initial coverage in 1969 framed the story as a "Kennedy family" tragedy, rather than as a tragedy for the Kopechne family.
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One of the most galling examples of media revisionism came from journalist Charles Pierce in the January 5, 2003 Boston Globe magazine profile of Kennedy. Though he warned that Kennedy lost his “moral credibility” to be president, the mostly sympathetic profile cheered the Democrat’s work to vastly expand the welfare state. Pierce infamously wrote: "If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age."
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How far did liberal journalists go in order to explain away Chappaquiddick? In this shocking quote (selected by the Media Research Center as the worst quote of 2009), Discover magazine's Melissa Lafsky wrote a piece for the Huffington Post suggesting that Kopechne might see her death as a necessary sacrifice:

"Mary Jo wasn’t a right-wing talking point or a negative campaign slogan....We don’t know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she’d have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history....[One wonders what] Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted’s death, and what she’d have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded. Who knows — maybe she’d feel it was worth it. "
One of the first modern examples of how the press began taking serious sides with the Democrats and against the American people.

 
Old Yesterday, 10:34 PM
 
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There’s no evidence putting him in it. None. Only his claim, and he had good reasons to lie.
Yeah, he had "reasons" to claim that he left a woman to drown.
Musta been pretty good reasons. What would be worse than that?


Also, don't forget that the "Lion of the Senate" colluded with Russia
in an unsuccessful attempt to defeat Ronald Reagan.
 
Old Yesterday, 11:23 PM
 
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So basically the theory is every journalist or news agency at the time wanted to protect Ted. Not one wanted to release an explosive expose. As far as conspiracy theories this one is especially weak.
 
Old Yesterday, 11:57 PM
 
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So basically the theory is every journalist or news agency at the time wanted to protect Ted. Not one wanted to release an explosive expose. As far as conspiracy theories this one is especially weak.
The Press has been covering for mostly Democrat Presidents since FDR, and him being a cripple and interning Japanese Americans, to Kennedy and his predatory habit towards young women and even Marylyn Monroe. It continued again with Clinton, the Obama. They haven't stopped.
 
Old Today, 12:25 AM
 
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And as Barack Obama said, He was a champion for those who had none. Tell that rot to Mary Jo Kopechne's parents.

Chappaquiddick stands today as the best example of a miscarriage of justice, and the influence of wealth and the Kennedy name. Even now, 50 years later, the AP tweets a one-sentence "this day in history" summary, about what sounds like an evil car which, of its own accord, went off a pier.

That TK continued to haunt The Hill wasn't an outrage, it was an abomination. More concerned about his political career, he stumbled past homes in the area, and rounded up the Kennedy Machine for himself instead of getting help for MJK.

He left her to drown in that car, and she ended up dying an agonizing, protracted death--suffocating as she ran out of air.

Yes, that's an abomination.
You’ve got it right. He wasn’t interested at all in saving her and probably hoped she’d die. It was all about him saving face that night. She died a horrible agonizing death.
 
Old Today, 12:53 AM
 
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Times have changed. People like the Kennedys got away with everything. It's because people didn't even talk about those things back then. People didn't even talk about s_x it was a taboo topic. What about Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and that groups of goons? Peter Lawford, the movie star who was married to a Kennedy sister. In those days people like that could get away with stuff. People were too embarrassed to talk about these things. TV shows weren't even allowed to show a married couple in bed together.

Today we're just the opposite and a lot of the talk is cringe worthy, crass, crude. Nobody's afraid to discuss sex and all sorts of behavior that used to be kept quiet. It's all out in the open. The Kennedy's wouldn't get away with much today. Politicians have to be careful of what they say, not just what they do. The public is really tuned in to obscene behavior today. And Ted Kennedy should have drowned along with MJK. Would have served him right.
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Old Today, 01:30 AM
 
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So what we all know about this incident is from journalist but let's blame the journalists for us knowing about this......okay
 
Old Today, 02:43 AM
 
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Yeah, he had "reasons" to claim that he left a woman to drown.
Musta been pretty good reasons. What would be worse than that?


Also, don't forget that the "Lion of the Senate" colluded with Russia
in an unsuccessful attempt to defeat Ronald Reagan.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

He never said that he left her to drown. Quite the contrary. He claims to have made several heroic attempts to dive down and save her.

Get back to me when you have a clue about the story.
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