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Old Yesterday, 08:27 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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It is a distinct possibility that some time in the next 10 years, there will be a serious Presidential candidate who will call for state ownership of the means of production in the United States. They will make Bernie Sanders look like a conservative.

I would bet on this happening.
Yeah we certainly are headed in that direction. I believe Obama started it with the "pay your fair share" and "tax cuts for the rich" rhetoric...Bernie accelerated that full speed. And eventually someone will finish the job.
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Old Yesterday, 09:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yeah we certainly are headed in that direction. I believe Obama started it with the "pay your fair share" and "tax cuts for the rich" rhetoric...Bernie accelerated that full speed. And eventually someone will finish the job.


Just a Taste of what current and future Democrats will be bringing us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF0A...ature=youtu.be
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Old Yesterday, 09:21 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Do I dread a democrat POTUS?
No more so than I would a republican. Which is to say either would just mean more partisan crap.

I would welcome a moderate from either party. A person who puts nation before party. What we don't need is an extremists, an Idealist, or a hardliner of any kind.
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Old Yesterday, 09:22 PM
 
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Nope... I dread Congress and the American people more so.
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Old Yesterday, 10:21 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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NO HE DID NOT

Clinton/Newt had PROJECTED budget surpluses.... but they SPENT THEM


here is the 4 years that they claim had a surplus
Fiscal
Year........ YearEnding.... ..National Debt........Annual budget Deficit

FY1998..... 09/30/1998.... $5.526193 trillion...... $113.05 billion
FY1999..... 09/30/1999.... $5.656270 trillion...... $130.08 billion
FY2000..... 09/29/2000.... $5.674178 trillion...... $17.91 billion
FY2001..... 09/28/2001.... $5.877463 trillion...... $133.29 billion

the national debt rose EVERY YEAR of those PROJECTED surpluses...had their been REAL surpluses, the national debt would have gone down

sorry not a surplus
a budget is a projection.. an estimate




you know you estimated take home is 60k
you budget a 55k worth of spending/bills
you budget a surplus of 5k
then you end up spending 65k due to emergencies, etc
your 5k surplus just turned into a 5 k deficit


that is accounting 101




if Clinton/Newt actually has a surplus, then the debt would have gone down..the interest of the debt IS IN the budget




are you saying a budget WRITTEN IN ADVANCE is the gospel, and NOTHING is EVER spent/saved outside of that written estimate.... if so you need to go back to school

Clinton/newt never had any surpluses.....they had PROJECTED surpluses...but the country SPENT the surpluses...if you project a surplus, then spend more than that surplus... you have a deficit

budgets are best guesses...projections

ie you can say we EXPECT/PROJECT the revenue to be 2 trillion and EXPECT the spending to be 3 trillion...a 1 trillion PROJECTED deficit

or you can say we EXPECT/PROJECT the revenue to be 2 trillion and EXPECT the spending to be 2 trillion...a PROJECTED balanced budget

ie you can say we EXPECT/PROJECT the revenue to be 2.1 trillion and EXPECT the spending to be 1.9 trillion...a 200 billion PROJECTED surplus

and the end of the year all the pluses and minuses are counted.... you can have

ie you can say we EXPECT/PROJECT the revenue to be 2 trillion and the spending to be 3 trillion...a 1 trillion PROJECTED deficit...but revenue rose to 2.2 trillion and we only spent 2.8 trillion...still a deficit but instead of a 1 trillion deficit, now its a 600 billion deficit


you can project a surplus..and have emergencies show up (ie the Mississippi valley flooding...911... etc) and completely blow the surplus to where it becomes a deficit



sorry, but the PROJECTED surpluses of clinton/newt never happened...the debt never got paid, and the debt infact INCREASED


the simple fact is if there had been a surplus, then the debt would have gone down...it didn't


was the BUDGET balanced.....yes

was there a PROJECTED SURPLUS.....yes

was there an actual surplus , once all in's and out's were counted.....NO

here is the 4 years that they claim had a surplus
Fiscal
Year........ YearEnding.... ..National Debt........ACTUAL Annual budget Deficit

FY1998..... 09/30/1998.... $5.526193 trillion...... $113.05 billion
FY1999..... 09/30/1999.... $5.656270 trillion...... $130.08 billion
FY2000..... 09/29/2000.... $5.674178 trillion...... $17.91 billion
FY2001..... 09/28/2001.... $5.877463 trillion...... $133.29 billion


so endeth the myth of the Clinton surplus

a spent projected surplus is not a surplus
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Old Yesterday, 11:45 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Youíre going to see your taxes go through the roof, all kinds of socialist policies taking money away from hard-working Americans, people shooting police with impunity, complete open borders including free U.S. visas issued to all Mexicans who want to come to this country, and outright support of Islamic extremists.

You donít think these things and more canít happen in America? Just wait and see, it is coming. So, you better brace yourself.
Just like the Left believes that if Trump stays in office we will have death camps, slavery will be reinstituted, and the Boy Scouts will converted into the Trump Youth as part of his Jahr Null initiative. /s

Seriously, the shrill hysterics and fearmongering of the conservative right on this forum is just as bad as the Left.


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Old Yesterday, 11:53 PM
 
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21. Implementing Collectivization
22. Auschwitzing citizens for non-collectivist thought.
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Old Today, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Hopefully the next Dimm president will not happen in my lifetime. And I hope not in my grandchildren's either.
It will happen next year. Get your affairs in order.
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Old Today, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The next Dem President will be a Joseph Stalin/Mao Zedong socialist/communist replica. The left have slid so far to the left that there's no coming back. They've gone full blown communist manifesto.
If it happens that way, it will be hugely implemented by the power that the GOP has allowed Trump to assume to the presidency. Checks and balances were designed into the Constitution for a reason. Little things like answering Congressional subpoenas, leaving Congress alone to fund the country's endeavors, and accepting the word of SCOTUS as final.

The republicans have done more damage to this country than they can ever repair.
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Old Today, 05:33 AM
Status: "What's 100 minus 48 plus 5?" (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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22. Auschwitzing citizens for non-collectivist thought.
Nothing so drastic. Just break them financially so they have to rely on social services, and the left can smugly say "see, we told you it could happen to you". Then they have to vote for the dems to keep their bennies.

If you can't change their minds, change their circumstances.
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