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Old 07-17-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Except that there is not a single Republican politician at the national level who has said that they support white nationalism. In fact, Trump has condemned it many times.

This is very different from some Democrats - who openly embrace socialism and illegal immigration and fail to condemn left-wing violence.
The white supremacists recognize their people. The vote on rebuking Trump yesterday demonstrated to the country which side of the white supremacy/white nationalism issue they are on. The GOP is now officially the racist party in the eyes of the world.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/polit...SjdutPlIPy_M-s
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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hopefully in Trump's second term we can institute a fitness for citizenship law and and settle who can be here and who will need to leave. Being born here will not be the determining factor.
You'll have to change the Constitution.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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The sky is falling, the sky is falling, Humpty Dumpty Trump is about to fall...splat! Yea!!!

What's not to get? In the US we now have socialism for corporations, banks, and the wealthy and capitalism for the masses of people simply trying to earn a liveable wage. Under Comrade Trump we have corporations paying no taxes or few taxes and many getting outrageous subsidies. Friend, that money has to come from somewhere and we are the somewhere.

What's wrong with wanting basic health care for everyone? We're not talking cosmetic surgery here. Just the basic stuff. Not to worry, you will still be able to buy your insurance to entitled you to a higher medical service.

This is the way it works for the poor; single mother, one child. Child wakes with toothache. Mom calls a dentist and finds it will cost $600 for a tooth extraction. (If she had insurance or Medicare the total cost would be $250, but because she has nothing the medical service can charge full price). Her child is in pain. She has no bank account because the bank will not give her one. No CC and her family is as poor as she is. She turns to what the rich provide for the poor, Title Loan. She does have a car that barely gets her back and forth to a 28hr job at Wmart. She gets the $600 from Title Loan at 30% or one month. The child is treated. All is well, well, not quite. It's now the end of the month and the mother finds she can't pay the full $600 back plus interest of 30%. Title loan has a heart they extend her the $600 loan for one year with a total interest of 1000%. Now if she can't repay the loan she loses her car and has no way to get to her job.

Now why wouldn't you want to basic medical care for everyone? Do you have money in Title Loan?
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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The white supremacists recognize their people. The vote on rebuking Trump yesterday demonstrated to the country which side of the white supremacy/white nationalism issue they are on. The GOP is now officially the racist party in the eyes of the world.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/polit...SjdutPlIPy_M-s

That there is some sort of racist/nationalist support in the GOP is nonsense. It is also nonsense that people who are behind Trump are racists and nationalists.If you believe the Democrats everybody who is behind Trump are either dressing up in bedsheets or watching old footage of Nazi rallies in Germany with rapt attention and yelling "seig heil."


It's pure bilge. I'm an Independent. I used to be a Republican decades ago but dropped them for reasons unrelated to racism. This image being portrayed by the left of Republicans having some sort of desire to reinstitute slaver or at the least Jim Crow is just derisive blather designed to convince a public who is now ignorant of real history they need to vote Democrat.


But it's gotten so ridiculous now people are dismissing it out of hand. A vast number of Independents like me are turning their backs on the Dems in droves. And when we Independents get counted we number more than the Dems and Pubs combined. And we lean more to the views of the Republicans than the Democrats. The Dems have gone way to far left and what they are espousing is unintelligible blather.


That it is a certainty Trump will be defeated by a Democrat in 2020 ...well...talk to a doctor about better medication Dems.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Obama was a level headed centrist and the right went absolutely mental for 8 years with him in office, of course his blackness had a whole lot to do with that.

Which candidates will generate the same level of freak out should then win?

Worst would def. be Elizabeth Warren. The right would lose their minds.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That there is some sort of racist/nationalist support in the GOP is nonsense. It is also nonsense that people who are behind Trump are racists and nationalists.If you believe the Democrats everybody who is behind Trump are either dressing up in bedsheets or watching old footage of Nazi rallies in Germany with rapt attention and yelling "seig heil."


It's pure bilge. I'm an Independent. I used to be a Republican decades ago but dropped them for reasons unrelated to racism. This image being portrayed by the left of Republicans having some sort of desire to reinstitute slaver or at the least Jim Crow is just derisive blather designed to convince a public who is now ignorant of real history they need to vote Democrat.


But it's gotten so ridiculous now people are dismissing it out of hand. A vast number of Independents like me are turning their backs on the Dems in droves. And when we Independents get counted we number more than the Dems and Pubs combined. And we lean more to the views of the Republicans than the Democrats. The Dems have gone way to far left and what they are espousing is unintelligible blather.


That it is a certainty Trump will be defeated by a Democrat in 2020 ...well...talk to a doctor about better medication Dems.
All I know is what the white nationalists say, and Trump's actions that the current crop of republicans refuse to reject and rebuke.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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What's wrong with wanting basic health care for everyone?
First close the border and create a definitive pool of eligible recipients, then discuss what that pool is and is not entitled to. To do it the other way around is to invite disaster.
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It is bad enough that they even made it to the United States Congress. AOC has even gone on record spouting Hispanic supremacy in the United States.

Even if these particular people never make it to the Presidency, there will be scores of other politicians just like them in the coming years. It could spell the end of the U.S. as we know it.
AOC is one Congresswoman. Her opinion carries the weight of one vote out of 535. What do you think you are accomplishing when you attempt to make her look far more important than she is?

Maybe Dems should start talking about Steve King in every post, you know...the genius who said “White Nationalist, white Supremacist, Western civilization--- how did THAT language become offensive? Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?” I don't think it would change anyone's mind about him but it sure would make him sound a heck of a lot more important than he is.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You realize that they'll take away everybodies guns and put them in reeducation camps............. like Obama did.
So if you're a gun store owner, better hope a Democrat wins as president in 2020.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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This is the way it works for the poor; single mother, one child. Child wakes with toothache. Mom calls a dentist and finds it will cost $600 for a tooth extraction. (If she had insurance or Medicare the total cost would be $250, but because she has nothing the medical service can charge full price). Her child is in pain. She has no bank account because the bank will not give her one. No CC and her family is as poor as she is. She turns to what the rich provide for the poor, Title Loan. She does have a car that barely gets her back and forth to a 28hr job at Wmart. She gets the $600 from Title Loan at 30% or one month. The child is treated. All is well, well, not quite. It's now the end of the month and the mother finds she can't pay the full $600 back plus interest of 30%. Title loan has a heart they extend her the $600 loan for one year with a total interest of 1000%. Now if she can't repay the loan she loses her car and has no way to get to her job.

Now why wouldn't you want to basic medical care for everyone? Do you have money in Title Loan?
It may be easier said than done, but women shouldn't get pregnant when they are in no position to adequately support themselves.
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