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Old 07-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Per person, the U.S. produces more C02 than citizens of China or India. Furthermore, financial problems will harm people in China and India more than people in the U.S. due to their lower average incomes.


If this was the case - and maybe it is, let's just say it is - the fact that the Left doesn't care to close the borders (stop letting tens of millions more into America, who in turn will add more to the destruction just by being part of the American machine), completely negates this bogus argument.

 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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My question for them is a simple one but it's always met with blank stares, silence and it always catches them off guard.

If you honestly believe we are facing imminent catastrophe, why don't you prepare for it by cashing out your 401k, liquidating your assets and using the money that will soon be worthless to BUY things that will enable you and your family to survive or at least suffer less?
I have read many books on this issue, I read a lot of articles and watched many videos and I have literally never heard anyone say we are in imminent danger from climate change.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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I do not think it is an imminent danger but I do think how we live on this planet is having some dire impacts on our environment.

This summer one of the beaches in my community has been strewn with plastic pellets. All those dramatic photos of plastic piles floating is starting to hit us HERE in the USA.

We can change how we do things. Look how far we have come with fuel efficiency, emissions, etc.

I hate that it has become a left vs. right issue.

I don't understand why we can't work towards looking after this planet.

I would rather spend money on that instead of trying to figure out how to live on Mars.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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I do not think it is an imminent danger but I do think how we live on this planet is having some dire impacts on our environment.

This summer one of the beaches in my community has been strewn with plastic pellets. All those dramatic photos of plastic piles floating is starting to hit us HERE in the USA.

We can change how we do things. Look how far we have come with fuel efficiency, emissions, etc.

I hate that it has become a left vs. right issue.

I don't understand why we can't work towards looking after this planet.

I would rather spend money on that instead of trying to figure out how to live on Mars.
Right vs. Left is an illusion making it seem like it is a political issue, when in reality it is a scientific issue. Can we imagine if we made theory of Gravity or the theory of Relativity into Right vs. Left? That's exactly whats happening to the study of man-made climate change, mostly by the Republican party....which is literally the only political group in the world who denies man-made climate change. Which is really strange when you think about it....and makes you wonder why that is. Why Conservatives in other countries accept the reality of this issue, but not Conservatives in the U.S. Is it because they represent fundamentalist Christians, or because they represent big oil and coal....or because it it's in direct conflict with their strong belief in the free-market solving all our problems? In the end though, it's really all about the science....which doesn't care what political stripe you follow...it just is what it is, like gravity and the speed of light.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Right vs. Left is an illusion making it seem like it is a political issue, when in reality it is a scientific issue. Can we imagine if we made theory of Gravity or the theory of Relativity into Right vs. Left? That's exactly whats happening to the study of man-made climate change, mostly by the Republican party....which is literally the only political group in the world who denies man-made climate change. Which is really strange when you think about it....and makes you wonder why that is. Why Conservatives in other countries accept the reality of this issue, but not Conservatives in the U.S. Is it because they represent fundamentalist Christians, or because they represent big oil and coal....or because it it's in direct conflict with their strong belief in the free-market solving all our problems? In the end though, it's really all about the science....which doesn't care what political stripe you follow...it just is what it is, like gravity and the speed of light.
Because the Left is lying about it, or at least being very misleading about the situation.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Because the Left is lying about it, or at least being very misleading about the situation.
Like I said, listen to the scientists and experts. Who cares what the Left is saying about it. Based on the scientific evidence, you need to make up your own mind. Ignore the politics.

I always say that based on the science, Republicans and other Conservatives need to come up with their own solutions to address this serious issue. Sticking their heads in the sand and pretending it's not a problems let's the Left take control of the issue and put forth their own solutions.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Like I said, listen to the scientists and experts. Who cares what the Left is saying about it. Based on the scientific evidence, you need to make up your own mind. Ignore the politics.
I did. Even if America eliminated all it's emissions, it wouldn't have an effect.

More importantly, not one person posting on this forum will be here in a hundred years.

Therefore, IDGA-.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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I did. Even if America eliminated all it's emissions, it wouldn't have an effect.

More importantly, not one person posting on this forum will be here in a hundred years.

Therefore, IDGA-.
That's absurd. America reducing its carbon emissions would have more of an effect than the vast majority of the planet doing it, per person, and it would be easier, and it would be more motivational for the rest of the planet.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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When democrat climate alarmists start actually walking the talk, I’ll start taking it more seriously.
Barbra Streisand, a climate alarmist and activist, just flew her three dogs on a SEPARATE private jet over 10,000 Miles so they could hear her concert.
Al Gore has the carbon footprint of Godzilla.
Oprah,another climate activist, has at least six mega mansions wasting huge amounts of resources.
How many liberal celebrities, and politicians drive around in stretch limos,
Have private planes, multiple huge mansions, conspicuous consumption etc etc etc
Green capitalism is still capitalism i.e. inequality. I do not see why you see those people as hypocrites. Much maligned by the right figure of Al Gore has not offered any radical ideas aside switching light bulbs in bathrooms. The right ties its panties in a buch when it hears the words "climate change" because it threatens a mental carrot of climbing up the parasitic ladder, Al Gore climbed, all the rightwingers cherish deep inside. Thus absurd irrationality.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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I did. Even if America eliminated all it's emissions, it wouldn't have an effect.

More importantly, not one person posting on this forum will be here in a hundred years.

Therefore, IDGA-.
But our grandchildren and their children will be here 100 years from now....
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