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When democrat climate alarmists start actually walking the talk, I’ll start taking it more seriously.
Barbra Streisand, a climate alarmist and activist, just flew her three dogs on a SEPARATE private jet over 10,000 Miles so they could hear her concert.
Al Gore has the carbon footprint of Godzilla.
Oprah,another climate activist, has at least six mega mansions wasting huge amounts of resources.
How many liberal celebrities, and politicians drive around in stretch limos,
Have private planes, multiple huge mansions, conspicuous consumption etc etc etc
If you want to do the whole "I'm not going to do anything if certain other people aren't" I can respect that. I'm not really doing much to reduce my carbon footprint. I recycle when it's convenient and about the only other thing I do related to global warming is come on to this forum and try to convince people it's occurring.
I view it kind of like how various food products are probably created through slave labor I'm too lazy to find out about, and how I buy meat products from factory farming despite it being bad for the environment, and the animals, and probably me.
All I'm primarily interested in is for people to have a more or less accurate view of what's happening.
I am very concerned about it and have factored it in significantly when I decided I needed to leave my former job. I moved from Florida to Massachusetts and looked for a town off the coast and for a house on a hill.
The thing about that is...if you live in a dessert, you're already used to living in a dessert. You don't need it to turn into a lush grassland. But if you live in one of the breadbaskets of the world and that turns into a dessert, that's an enormous problem.
It would be hard to get used to living in a dessert, especially if it were ice cream. You’d probably get hypothermia pretty quickly. Living in a chocolate cake would just be awkward.
A dessert turning into a lush grassland would be something to see.
If the breadbaskets of the world turn into desserts, it means less bread but more brownies. Yum!
For the record, I am skeptical of climate change being a danger. I'm also not interested in debating it or explaining my reasons why. There are plenty of people on both sides of this issue who have spent plenty of time doing that here and elsewhere.
No. My question is for those who honestly and earnestly believe this is an imminent problem. I have plenty in my own family and among friends. One of them just sent me a copy of a book by David Wallace Wells out of the blue and implored me to read it.
My question for them is a simple one but it's always met with blank stares, silence and it always catches them off guard.
If you honestly believe we are facing imminent catastrophe, why don't you prepare for it by cashing out your 401k, liquidating your assets and using the money that will soon be worthless to BUY things that will enable you and your family to survive or at least suffer less?
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This is a legitimate question. I also don't want to debate climate change because in my mind the science is pretty clear. I want to focus on what to do about it. But first I want to clarify one point: nobody is saying the world will end in 10 or 20 years. They are saying that if we don't do something in 10-20 years, it will be too late to reach the goal set by the IFCC, which is to keep warming below 2 degrees celsius or whatever by 2100. That's all.
I assume we're not going to doing anything to stop it, so I've tried to research what the impact of those 2 degrees will be on my life. Higher sea level and more frequent heat waves. And the most severe effects won't be until the end of the century, and I'll be long gone. So why would I cash in my 401k?
The best thing I can do is vote for candidates who want to invest in developing new technologies to reduce or mitigate climate change, so that by the time my grandkids are grown we'll have a solution.
It would be hard to get used to living in a dessert, especially if it were ice cream. You’d probably get hypothermia pretty quickly. Living in a chocolate cake would just be awkward.
A dessert turning into a lush grassland would be something to see.
If the breadbaskets of the world turn into desserts, it means less bread but more brownies. Yum!
...and there is also scientific data that contradicts what you think is absolute. Science is also not infallible, immune to corruption, groupthink or bias. I don't want to go down this line of debate because that is not what the OP is about. I'm just tired of this logical fallacy of appeal to authority that is constantly trotted out in these discussions to shut down debate.
RE: Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Authority
I greatly appreciate debaters who are well-informed regarding logical fallacies.
"It's important to note that this fallacy should not be used to dismiss the claims of experts, or scientific consensus."
July 10, 2019
CEI Files Formal Complaint Regarding NASA's Claim of 97% Climate Scientist Agreement on Global Warming
“The claim that 97% of climate scientists believe humans are the primary cause of global warming is simply false,” said CEI attorney Devin Watkins. “That figure was created only by ignoring many climate scientists’ views, including those of undecided scientists. It is time that NASA correct the record and present unbiased figures to the public.”
July 10, 2019
CEI Files Formal Complaint Regarding NASA's Claim of 97% Climate Scientist Agreement on Global Warming
“The claim that 97% of climate scientists believe humans are the primary cause of global warming is simply false,” said CEI attorney Devin Watkins. “That figure was created only by ignoring many climate scientists’ views, including those of undecided scientists. It is time that NASA correct the record and present unbiased figures to the public.”
RE: 97% of climate scientists believe humans are the primary cause of global warming
"It is time that NASA correct the record and present unbiased figures to the public"
Allrightie then, what is the correct figure?
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