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Old 07-21-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: USA
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The answer to your question:

No matter how much money you have, you and all your descendants will never be able to live as happily or as successfully in a too-hot world.

Once the planet heats up past the point of no return, there will be no place you can go where life will be as easy as the life you now enjoy.

Money won't help when all of life's essentials wither and disappear.

Once you use everything up you bought, there won't be anything to replace the stuff. Once the climate heats up past the point of no return, it will never revert to the climate it was for far, far beyond your life span and your children's lives.
Totally agree, but if it does get "too hot to live" it will be mainly, or ALL due to nature like it has in past millennia with Ice Ages, and very hot tropical periods. The SUN is the cause of climate change to a large degree, and we can't change the Sun.

 
Old 07-21-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Meh, whatever happens in the future doesn’t concern me. I will be dead.
That’s keep of the way I feel while I do believe climate change is real I’ll be dead before it gets to the point where we REALLY see a big impact. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and save the planet for future generations.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...
 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...
It’s a good mix I’ll agree with you for many people it’s trendy they think they are cool somehow. In all reality they don’t care.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Up North
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B.S. Per person we're among the top C02 emitters on the planet. Also, it's not going to be convincing if we tell other countries to do things we're not doing. That's probably the most important factor.
If so...it just proves even more how full of it the Left is.


After all: WHY would you be admitting tens of millions of people into America ("legally" and illegally) and really want the entire world to relocate here (open borders) if every person we admit here from the third world sh------- they came from is just going to add to the "CO2" destruction of the planet like 20 times as much by being in America???


Because it's a crock of waste, that's why. Just like everything the left stands for is a crock of refuse.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...
It's because they know it's all a big LIE.


The reality is - I believe - that it's just a step closer to a global government, which is what all the communists REALLY want.


That's the bottom line. These "progressives" don't give two s---- about the planet - they just want a one-world government.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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B.S. Per person we're among the top C02 emitters on the planet. Also, it's not going to be convincing if we tell other countries to do things we're not doing. That's probably the most important factor.
Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
 
Old 07-21-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Up North
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Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Exactly.


It doesn't matter if America (and the rest of the West) completely eliminated their emissions as long as the open-sewers India and China are pumping pollution out like no tomorrow.


So...it's complete garbage that the Left is pushing on us.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Per person, the U.S. produces more C02 than citizens of China or India. Furthermore, financial problems will harm people in China and India more than people in the U.S. due to their lower average incomes.

Therefore, your claim that "other countries don't give a flying" is not shown by your data. What is shown is that countries are still developing.

Of course they're using cheaper energy now. We can't say they don't care until they're producing as much C02 as the U.S. and not trying to alter that.


China, for example, is the world "leader" in total emissions (6018m metric tonnes of carbon dioxide) since it overtook the US (5903) in 2007. But all that really tells you is that China is a fast-developing country with a lot of people.
A more useful measurement is carbon emissions per capita (person). Under that measurement, the average American is responsible for 19.8 tonnes per person, and the average Chinese citizen clocks in at 4.6 tonnes.
Examining CO2 per capita around the world also shows us the gulf between the developed world's responsibility for climate change and that of the developing world. While Australia is on 20.6 tonnes per person (partly because of its reliance on CO2-intensive coal) and the UK is half that at 9.7 (explained in part by relatively CO2-light gas power stations), India is on a mere 1.2. Poorer African nations such as Kenya are on an order magnitude less again – the average Kenyan has a footprint of just 0.3 tonnes (a figure that's likely to drop even lower with the country's surge in wind power).

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-person-capita

So, if you ask me, what we need to do is research some cheap-as-possible clean energy technologies real quick so that those nations can adopt them before they build up a strong power infrastructure in coal and oil and use that to adopt standards of living along the lines of the U.S. Then what we do still will matter...we just won't be making much more of an impact on things than everybody else like we are now. Now's the time we get to be the world's example. We'll lose that power in the future.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Totally agree, but if it does get "too hot to live" it will be mainly, or ALL due to nature like it has in past millennia with Ice Ages, and very hot tropical periods. The SUN is the cause of climate change to a large degree, and we can't change the Sun.
The sun has not been warming for long periods of time in decades. It hasn't been the cause of recent global warming.
https://skepticalscience.com/solar-a...al-warming.htm
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