Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 07-21-2019, 06:39 AM
 
20,187 posts, read 23,762,690 times
Reputation: 9283

Advertisements

What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...

 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Homeless
17,720 posts, read 13,437,220 times
Reputation: 11992
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...
It’s a good mix I’ll agree with you for many people it’s trendy they think they are cool somehow. In all reality they don’t care.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
10,098 posts, read 4,045,942 times
Reputation: 7086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clintone View Post
B.S. Per person we're among the top C02 emitters on the planet. Also, it's not going to be convincing if we tell other countries to do things we're not doing. That's probably the most important factor.
If so...it just proves even more how full of it the Left is.


After all: WHY would you be admitting tens of millions of people into America ("legally" and illegally) and really want the entire world to relocate here (open borders) if every person we admit here from the third world sh------- they came from is just going to add to the "CO2" destruction of the planet like 20 times as much by being in America???


Because it's a crock of waste, that's why. Just like everything the left stands for is a crock of refuse.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
10,098 posts, read 4,045,942 times
Reputation: 7086
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
What I notice about global warming believers is they TALK a lot but drive around in SUVs, have larger than needed houses, continue to pop out kids, eat meat and dairy products, litter the road, buy a ton of useless garbage, and demand some kind of tax break incentive so they can continue to do all that stuff... They are really trying to save something... Whatever it is nobody knows...
It's because they know it's all a big LIE.


The reality is - I believe - that it's just a step closer to a global government, which is what all the communists REALLY want.


That's the bottom line. These "progressives" don't give two s---- about the planet - they just want a one-world government.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 08:08 AM
 
18,275 posts, read 8,077,482 times
Reputation: 13568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clintone View Post
B.S. Per person we're among the top C02 emitters on the planet. Also, it's not going to be convincing if we tell other countries to do things we're not doing. That's probably the most important factor.
Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
 
Old 07-21-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
10,098 posts, read 4,045,942 times
Reputation: 7086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Exactly.


It doesn't matter if America (and the rest of the West) completely eliminated their emissions as long as the open-sewers India and China are pumping pollution out like no tomorrow.


So...it's complete garbage that the Left is pushing on us.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
5,671 posts, read 4,329,119 times
Reputation: 2610
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Per person, the U.S. produces more C02 than citizens of China or India. Furthermore, financial problems will harm people in China and India more than people in the U.S. due to their lower average incomes.

Therefore, your claim that "other countries don't give a flying" is not shown by your data. What is shown is that countries are still developing.

Of course they're using cheaper energy now. We can't say they don't care until they're producing as much C02 as the U.S. and not trying to alter that.


China, for example, is the world "leader" in total emissions (6018m metric tonnes of carbon dioxide) since it overtook the US (5903) in 2007. But all that really tells you is that China is a fast-developing country with a lot of people.
A more useful measurement is carbon emissions per capita (person). Under that measurement, the average American is responsible for 19.8 tonnes per person, and the average Chinese citizen clocks in at 4.6 tonnes.
Examining CO2 per capita around the world also shows us the gulf between the developed world's responsibility for climate change and that of the developing world. While Australia is on 20.6 tonnes per person (partly because of its reliance on CO2-intensive coal) and the UK is half that at 9.7 (explained in part by relatively CO2-light gas power stations), India is on a mere 1.2. Poorer African nations such as Kenya are on an order magnitude less again – the average Kenyan has a footprint of just 0.3 tonnes (a figure that's likely to drop even lower with the country's surge in wind power).

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-person-capita

So, if you ask me, what we need to do is research some cheap-as-possible clean energy technologies real quick so that those nations can adopt them before they build up a strong power infrastructure in coal and oil and use that to adopt standards of living along the lines of the U.S. Then what we do still will matter...we just won't be making much more of an impact on things than everybody else like we are now. Now's the time we get to be the world's example. We'll lose that power in the future.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
5,671 posts, read 4,329,119 times
Reputation: 2610
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
Totally agree, but if it does get "too hot to live" it will be mainly, or ALL due to nature like it has in past millennia with Ice Ages, and very hot tropical periods. The SUN is the cause of climate change to a large degree, and we can't change the Sun.
The sun has not been warming for long periods of time in decades. It hasn't been the cause of recent global warming.
https://skepticalscience.com/solar-a...al-warming.htm
 
Old 07-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
10,098 posts, read 4,045,942 times
Reputation: 7086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clintone View Post
Per person, the U.S. produces more C02 than citizens of China or India. Furthermore, financial problems will harm people in China and India more than people in the U.S. due to their lower average incomes.


If this was the case - and maybe it is, let's just say it is - the fact that the Left doesn't care to close the borders (stop letting tens of millions more into America, who in turn will add more to the destruction just by being part of the American machine), completely negates this bogus argument.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 10:11 AM
 
3,347 posts, read 1,256,178 times
Reputation: 3173
Quote:
Originally Posted by happyoutwalkintheblacklab View Post
My question for them is a simple one but it's always met with blank stares, silence and it always catches them off guard.

If you honestly believe we are facing imminent catastrophe, why don't you prepare for it by cashing out your 401k, liquidating your assets and using the money that will soon be worthless to BUY things that will enable you and your family to survive or at least suffer less?
I have read many books on this issue, I read a lot of articles and watched many videos and I have literally never heard anyone say we are in imminent danger from climate change.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.



All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top