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Old 07-17-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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This fear mongering around "open borders" might work with the more ignorant among us, but those with two wits to rub together know that Democrats have always supported funding for effective border enforcement.

Democrats just believe in treating people, regardless of where they come from, like we would want to be treated were we in the same boat.

Republicans are all talk about this anyway. They had two years when they could have passed mandatory E-Verify with significant employer penalties. Nary a peep.

Republicans want to stir up their ignorant base about the evils of brown skinned people, but they don't actually want to do anything about immigration.

This, of course, is not lost on those who are able to think.


I am thinking right now. If you really believe that-


1. take in an illegal family into your house


2. fund or support an illegal family


3. contribute to the hospitals going broke by treating illegals for free


4. pay more taxes to pay for the $100 billion cost of illegals


5. Pay more income to your fellow citizens, whose wages have been driven down by illegals


6. Create new humans to replace the citizens killed by illegals




Talk is cheap. Liberals will never spend a dime of their own money to support their causes, as most liberals are actually cheap and greedy. They like to talk about being "compassionate" around their liberal friends to receive accolades, but never do anything.


That is actually worse, as it is very disingenuous;actions speak louder than words and you have not (and will not) do a damn thing to help anyone else out but yourself.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Baloney.

My taxes are already being used to pay for those $750/day accommodations at the border.

My taxes are already being used to pay for the schools, medical treatment, etc. of the nannies, gardeners, etc. of the well-to-do.

The people benefiting from the low-wage labor are the wealthy. They keep the ignorant base stirred up with tales of this, that, or the other but never do anything to fix the problem.

Republicans stripped employer sanctions from Reagan's amnesty bill.

Ask yourself why.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: my little town
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more urban
That is the Democrats' great weakness. Getting a few hundred thousand votes in one city is easier than canvassing an entire state of farmers, but the two senators, at least one representative, and the electoral votes balance the urban population. Without that disproportionate voting power, the nation's farmers would be ignored and forgotten until the famine starts. Even with that power, many farmers commit suicide when they can't pay their bills.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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In your dreams....its the Liberals that are dying a slow, painful, agonizing death.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And this article is from February before this current wave of Trumps fear mongering, phony patriotism and racist rants...


Many snips from such a spot-on article but you get the drift. All Democrats should take the time to read this in its entirety as it does explain how the GOP is becoming a ghost and we can breath a bit easier in the knowledge that there is still hope for the planet and its inhabitants.
There are 4 horsewomen of the Democrat apocalypse, taking all the air out of the room as we type.
Trumps approval jumped 4 points to 50% in the last day.
That had to leave a mark.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Even the GOP knows this. That's what's behind the gerrymandering, ballot harvesting, voter suppression, smearing opposition candidates, welcoming campaign help from Putin, ...

It's why McConnell is blocking legislation for fair elections.

"gerrymandering"

States divide up the districts...try winning at the local level for a change.


"ballot harvesting"

The law made it illegal for absentee voters to allow others to collect their completed ballots and turn them in on their behalf, with the exception of family members and caregivers. Democrats filed suit, arguing the law was passed in an attempt to dilute minority voting power.

Democrats now hold supermajorities in both chambers. In 2016, the state legislature passed a law that allows anyone, including union and special interest workers, as well as campaign operatives, to collect and return ballots.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...push_back.html


"voter suppression"

Sure, because photo IDs are racist!


"smearing opposition candidates"

The Russia fairy tale wasn't a smear?
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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Republicans may not have the demographics but they have great front men and women. Take music as an example. Everyone loves Adam Levine and Taylor Swift. Are these people the best musicians? Probably not. But the Republicans have the Adam Levine's and Taylor Swift's of politics in their corner.

Republicans will always win because they put up better show men and women. Forget demographics. I lean left and there's no way I'd vote for Bernie or Beto.

We need real leaders not show men to run this country. But voters vote for show men.
I wonder if youre just making that up, or just misunderstood what you read.
Because Taylor Swift announced last October that her vote isnt going to republicans, she is a democrat.
Adam Levine from Maroon 5 is also a democrat since 2017. Simple google search finds this.

Did you just make all that up?
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
This fear mongering around "open borders" might work with the more ignorant among us, but those with two wits to rub together know that Democrats have always supported funding for effective border enforcement.

Democrats just believe in treating people, regardless of where they come from, like we would want to be treated were we in the same boat.

Republicans are all talk about this anyway. They had two years when they could have passed mandatory E-Verify with significant employer penalties. Nary a peep.

Republicans want to stir up their ignorant base about the evils of brown skinned people, but they don't actually want to do anything about immigration.

This, of course, is not lost on those who are able to think.
Of course. The republican fear mongering is only to keep their base voting for them.
But they know that they will never betray the part of their base that owns the companies that hire illegal immigrants, so they wont try to stop illegal immigration. tRump can spout all he wants, it will never get done.
But the base would never believe it when they are told that.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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If people havenít figured out we have a two party system by now they never will. There will always be a left and a right
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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That is the Democrats' great weakness. Getting a few hundred thousand votes in one city is easier than canvassing an entire state of farmers, but the two senators, at least one representative, and the electoral votes balance the urban population. Without that disproportionate voting power, the nation's farmers would be ignored and forgotten until the famine starts. Even with that power, many farmers commit suicide when they can't pay their bills.
Farmers are already going bankrupt, committing suicide.

Farmers' suicide rate is double that of veterans.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...record-numbers

Are the Senators from Wyoming, Montana, North and South Dakota, Alaska, ... in there "fighting for the farmers?"

Hardly.
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