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Old Yesterday, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Go back where you came from is one of the oldest racist dog whistles.

His clarification is hypocrisy. Telling people to leave the US if they don't like where it's headed. But also telling people coming here on asylum to stay where they are and fix the situation...
So, you are claiming Trump just said those 6 words? "Go back where you came from"? Nothing before that?
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Old Yesterday, 02:08 PM
 
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Trump: "Go back to the countries with broken, corrupt govts, fix them, then come back and show us how you did it"


Once again the usual Democrats are up to their usual tactics, misquoting the President, concentrating on minor quibbles, ignoring the important parts, twisting what he said into something else, and the bashing him for that instead of the main point he was making.

These people need some new tactics. These haven't worked for them for a long time. And the more they try it, the more people learn to ignore them, and the farther behind they fall.

It's instructive to look at what the President DID say... all of it, for a change.

On July 14, 2019, President Trump said in a series of tweets:

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run.

Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough.


Obviously, he wasn't kicking them out of the country, or even implying it, contrary to what the Dem fanatics are now frantically screaming.

He was saying that, if they wanted to tell the rest of us how to "fix" the United States' problems, they should first go to the corrupt, failing countries they favor, fix the far more severe problems there, and then come back to the US and tell us how they did it.

He was implying, obviously, that these congressmen couldn't tell a severe problem if it bit them, much less have any idea how to fix it. And he was suggesting that they get some experience in solving ACTUAL severe problems, before telling others how to do it.

The congressmen, of course, absolutely do not want to discuss any of that. So they are seizing on his mistake where he said "who originally came from countries...", as though that were the most important thing he said.

They clearly want to divert the discussion from the most important points: That they have little or no idea what they are talking about and merely want to run down the United States, while offering no solutions and being unwilling to even try. Instead, they keep screaming and whining that he wants to throw them out, wants to throw colored people out, etc. etc..... none of which he ever said or even implied.

But it beats talking about what he did say.... and the fact that they cannot reply to it.

It's a standard Democrat-fanatic technique to ignore most of what someone says, pick out an unimportant quibble, and concentrate all their attention and vitriol on that, trying to put people on the defensive over minor matters so they won't talk about the main points that are actually important.

And they are doing it more and more, as they continue to lose their voter base and Trump moves closer to re-election despite their loudest and most hysterical efforts.
A "mistake" he made twice in the same tweet. What countries is he even referring to that need fixing? Strange he didn't name any.

How do you square the fact that he doubled down with several tweets afterwards saying if you don't like it you can leave? While at the same time saying those coming here on asylum should stay and fix their own country?

Which is it? Fix what you don't like or leave?
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Old Yesterday, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Youre right, "Make American Great Again" is the dog whistle!

Sounds like a quote from the Squid Squad


The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved. !
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Old Yesterday, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Right it's not offensive to you...but it is to those impacted. A dog whistle.
Why do people use dog whistles? Is it to insult the dog and make him feel unwelcome?

Last edited by Mr. Joshua; Yesterday at 02:22 PM..
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Old Yesterday, 02:12 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Many of the countries where immigrants have come from are hellholes because of US interventions. That alone makes Trump's statements sound stupid, ignorant, and hypocritical.
Not to mention that he falsely thinks he speaks for "real Americans", as if the other half of the country's population have just drifted ashore

What shampoo does Trump use, anyway? Just curios so that I won't end up looking like that
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Old Yesterday, 02:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Once again the usual Democrats are up to their usual tactics, misquoting the President, concentrating on minor quibbles, ignoring the important parts, twisting what he said into something else, and the bashing him for that instead of the main point he was making.

He was saying that, if they wanted to tell the rest of us how to "fix" the United States' problems, they should first go to the corrupt, failing countries they favor, fix the far more severe problems there, and then come back to the US and tell us how they did it.

He was implying, obviously, that these congressmen couldn't tell a severe problem if it bit them, much less have any idea how to fix it. And he was suggesting that they get some experience in solving ACTUAL severe problems, before telling others how to do it.

The congressmen, of course, absolutely do not want to discuss any of that. So they are seizing on his mistake where he said "who originally came from countries...", as though that were the most important thing he said.

They clearly want to divert the discussion from the most important points: That they have little or no idea what they are talking about and merely want to run down the United States, while offering no solutions and being unwilling to even try.

It's a standard Democrat-fanatic technique to ignore most of what someone says, pick out an unimportant quibble, and concentrate all their attention and vitriol on that, trying to put people on the defensive over minor matters so they won't talk about the main points that are actually important.
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A "mistake" he made twice in the same tweet. What countries is he even referring to that need fixing? Strange he didn't name any.
See?

It is SO easy to predict what these people will do, how they will twist and dodge, and their frantic attempts to NOT talk about the President's main points. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Old Yesterday, 02:41 PM
 
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See?

It is SO easy to predict what these people will do, how they will twist and dodge, and their frantic attempts to NOT talk about the President's main points. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Lol nice partial quote ignoring the rest to prove you are what you say.

It is possible to condemn Trumpís words without being a Democrat you know. And can handle his behavior and fixes for other countries as separate topics.
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Old Yesterday, 02:43 PM
 
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This is what passes for wit among conservatives.
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Old Yesterday, 02:45 PM
 
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...pick out an unimportant quibble, and concentrate all their attention and vitriol on that, trying to put people on the defensive over minor matters so they won't talk about the main points that are actually important...
Someone is experiencing what it feels like to lose control of the narrative.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Once again the usual Democrats are up to their usual tactics, misquoting the President
The flaw in your argument is the fact that atleast 2 of the people you mentioned are generationally americans.

Him telling them to go to any random country and fix them doesnt make any sense.


so either his comment had no malice, but was nonsensical.

Or

it was purposeful and racist.


You pick.
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