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Old 07-17-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I think Trump has a good point.


If you hate the Freedom & Liberty outlined in the US Constitution, why are you still here?
Civil liberties end when an attack on our safety begins.

 
Old 07-17-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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Who is the decider? Does Trump get to decide who loves the country and the Constitution?
 
Old 07-17-2019, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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No body hates Freedom or Liberty.

Many patriotic people question parts of the Constitution, because of course they do. It was written over 200 years ago in a TOTALLY different world than the one we live in now.

Thomas Jefferson knew things were going to change which is why he wanted to put an expiration date on the thing.

Opposing the way things are done and trying to make it better is not showing disdain for America. If it were, why weren't all of the Trump supporters telling him to get the **** out when he was running for President saying "America is failing" and "lets make America great again"?

People who see something that they believe is wrong with this country and try to change it are Patriots, people who sit around saying "everything's great, no need to change anything because we're perfect, we're #1" are proud puppets.


You may disagree with them, much as I disagreed with Trump. But it's completely foolish to suggest they should leave a country that they obviously love and care about just because they don't see eye to eye with you.
You're right.
And who exactly, has the Constitutional right to say who loves the Constitution or not? For sure, it ain't you, Bent. Nor me, nor that guy over there in the corner.

But if the day ever comes when there is no one to argue over the Constitution, that will be the day when the United States of American will become a dictatorship.

And if it ever becomes a dictatorship, Bent, you and I will be some of the first up against the same wall awaiting the bullets that will end us both.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 03:01 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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You know what they say: "All good things...".

The US Constitution was breathtaking and a monument to freedom in its day. However other nations constitutions have not just caught up, but surpassed guarantees for its citizens.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ite-it/281090/
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/u...the-world.html
https://www.thenation.com/article/th...owing-its-age/

(right to education, human dignity, freedom from harassment, excluding making campaign donations equivalent of free speech, excluding hate speech as protected speech, broader range of protections from discrimination than our present constitution gives, etc).
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