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Old Yesterday, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"The left isn't a bunch of war mongers, they just elect the the war mongers to the White House."
Really?

Dem's who voted FOR the wars:
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE) VP at the time
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY) Sec of state at the time(Labeled Smartest women in the world by many lefties)
Daschle (D-SD) Leader of the Senate at the time and co-sponsored the bill
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC) Ran for VP
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA) Ran for Pres.
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT) Ran for Pres.
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV) leader of the Senate at the time
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY) Current SML
Torricelli (D-NJ)
A decent amount say they are not. It's the President who counts.
The President controls troop movements and can bring the troops home at anytime. Obama and Clinton were war mongers.
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Old Yesterday, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Rand Paul is only illustrating perfectly that if you risk your life to save fellow Americans in the wake of an attack and knowingly put yourself in an environment that will cause you life shortening medical issues, the government will tell you to go pound sand.
Rand Paul is illustrating that he keeps his words and wants everything in the budget to be paid for. That's what a responsible person does.

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Balanced budgets donít matter in this case. The first responders are owed medical care at the very least. You didnít see Rand Paul in NYC to help. Pathetic.
Because it's not his job. Pathetic that you think people would think it is.
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Old Yesterday, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Rand Paul was in favor of tax cuts to the rich knowing full well the deficit would balloon. He is a hypocrite on a affordability.
Anyone who cares about the truth knows an overwhelming percentage of the middle class got tax cuts.


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What sane person that had expenses higher than revenues would take action to reduce revenues even more?
The tax cut passed first. What sane person would say that spending should be increased AFTER the tax cuts passed.
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Old Yesterday, 10:58 AM
 
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Rand Paul is illustrating that he keeps his words and wants everything in the budget to be paid for. That's what a responsible person does.
Save that garbage. He voted in favor of the last big tax bill that's added a trillion plus to the deficit.

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Because it's not his job. Pathetic that you think people would think it is.
Even more reason this shouldn't still being debated ten years later.
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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Your plan is to renege on our obligations"

What "obligations"?

Technically the 1st respondents were ALL LOCAL NY City, etc employees, so the fed is out of the picture.

Why should the people form the rest of country pay for a NY CITY obligation?

I find a lot of hypocrites on the left at this site.

They DEMAND the fed fed swoop in and help in cases like this and hurricane,, tornados, floods, fires earthquakes, etc., then turn right around and say " Our police will NOT assist ICE, etc, it is NOT our "responsibility".
So 9/11 wasn't a disaster on a federal level? It wasn't a federal level lapse in security especially after the first World Trade Center attack (The 1993 bombing), the Unibomber, Oklahoma City and Atlanta's Olympic Park? The fact is these local heroes ended up doing federal work and New York City and state, even with the tax revenues they take in, would not be able to do enough. The federal government would though. This was a federal level crisis.

How about this, the rest of the country turns their back the next time the Ohio River Valley floods in the Commonwealth of Kentucky to cause them to ask for FIMA funding, we pull a Rand Paul on his home state? It isn't our state so why worry... NEWS FLASH, IT DON'T WORK LIKE THAT!
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Old Yesterday, 02:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Your plan is to renege on our obligations"

What "obligations"?

Technically the 1st respondents were ALL LOCAL NY City, etc employees, so the fed is out of the picture.

Why should the people form the rest of country pay for a NY CITY obligation?

I find a lot of hypocrites on the left at this site.

They DEMAND the fed fed swoop in and help in cases like this and hurricane,, tornados, floods, fires earthquakes, etc., then turn right around and say " Our police will NOT assist ICE, etc, it is NOT our "responsibility".
Christine Whitman former EPA chief said the air was safe. I was not issued a respirator until one month down at ground zero. So the federal government did have involvement.
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Save that garbage. He voted in favor of the last big tax bill that's added a trillion plus to the deficit.
Save your garbage for the economic amatuers like yourself that didn't see the collapse coming. They are just as uninformed as you are. The tax bill didn't add to the debt, the increased spending did.

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Even more reason this shouldn't still being debated ten years later.
Because out of control spending isn't a problem???
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Old Yesterday, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So 9/11 wasn't a disaster on a federal level? It wasn't a federal level lapse in security especially after the first World Trade Center attack (The 1993 bombing), the Unibomber, Oklahoma City and Atlanta's Olympic Park? The fact is these local heroes ended up doing federal work and New York City and state, even with the tax revenues they take in, would not be able to do enough. The federal government would though. This was a federal level crisis.

How about this, the rest of the country turns their back the next time the Ohio River Valley floods in the Commonwealth of Kentucky to cause them to ask for FIMA funding, we pull a Rand Paul on his home state? It isn't our state so why worry... NEWS FLASH, IT DON'T WORK LIKE THAT!
The only one turning their back here is you. Turning a blind eye to all this increased spending and little oversight. HOWS THAT WORKING OUT, SLICK?
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Old Yesterday, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Christine Whitman former EPA chief said the air was safe. I was not issued a respirator until one month down at ground zero. So the federal government did have involvement.
All that dust and contaminants around and she had the gall to say that. Horrible.
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Old Yesterday, 03:23 PM
 
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At some point we do need to start paying for things.....or not pay for anything.
LOL, trump is great at not paying for anything I mean he did file "bankruptcy " four times ,right?
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