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Old 07-18-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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LOL, you don't see the words of Trump being the very words we both agree do not represent the flag?

Really?

You may need to ...rephrase this. No those words do not represent the flag. But I've never heard Trump say they do. And even if he had they would not represent the flag for me. I fail to understand your confusion on that.


The Gadsden to me represents the principals our country was founded on and gives a big up your's to any who wish to oppress us.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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I like it. Especially my Naval version with the 13 red and white stripes and the stretched out snake. And I love the caption. Don't Tread On ME. Kinda says it all. Flying astern on a warship it looks massive cool. Especially if you know what it symbolizes.


You can think what you like. This is still America (for now). But for me I love the Gadsden.
That one looks even worse then the coiled snaked on yellow version.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I like it. Especially my Naval version with the 13 red and white stripes and the stretched out snake. And I love the caption. Don't Tread On ME. Kinda says it all. Flying astern on a warship it looks massive cool. Especially if you know what it symbolizes.


You can think what you like. This is still America (for now). But for me I love the Gadsden.
I lke the Gadsden Flag also.

And I find it very interesting that the founding fathers thought the Timber Rattlesnake was a good metaphor for the US colonies. Cool. Won't bother you unless you step on me...then watch out.

Perhaps we should go back to that a little nowadays.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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You may need to ...rephrase this. No those words do not represent the flag. But I've never heard Trump say they do. And even if he had they would not represent the flag for me. I fail to understand your confusion on that.
We both agree to that but this line of discussion started out with the idea that Trump is hurting what the American flag stands for when as president he says what he says.

As president he is suppose to uphold the ideas the American flag stands for and IMO he is not. The ideas behind the American flag would allow him to disagree with "the other side". He can say they are wrong. Presidents have always done that. (and unfortunately they also have lied to us over and over) but to tell those he disagree's with that they should go back to their countries (which is an oxymoron as they are already in their country) is not what it stands for.

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The Gadsden to me represents the principals our country was founded on and gives a big up your's to any who wish to oppress us.
We have also likely got our lines crossed. I noted that the Gadsden flag was in no way racist but unfortunately, many who fly it are.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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It came out on the Black Album in 90, I think Damn Yankees might have been a couple years later.

Damn Yankees was in the 80s. I was listening to them in high school. And I graduated in 83.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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I am desperately searching for something that pertains to this country that the damn SJW liberals don't find racists or offensive. If anyone doubts that these people are not out to ruin this country you are sadly mistaken.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Gadsden flag is badass. It is a libertarian, anti-authoritarian, freedom promoting symbol, and it is for anyone and everyone who believes in those things - the opposite of bigotry. If there is anyone who might get bristled by it, that would be the government, police, etc. I wouldn't put a decal of one on my car because don't need any more tickets.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Gadsden flag is badass. It is a libertarian, anti-authoritarian, freedom promoting symbol, and it is for anyone and everyone who believes in those things - the opposite of bigotry. If there is anyone who might get bristled by it, that would be the government, police, etc. I wouldn't put a decal of one on my car because don't need any more tickets.
This is what it stands for. Unfortunately many who fly it do not. Unfortunately many who do support what it stands for can not really speak out because freedom means you also have the freedom to be a jerk.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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I am desperately searching for something that pertains to this country that the damn SJW liberals don't find racists or offensive. If anyone doubts that these people are not out to ruin this country you are sadly mistaken.
when they can slap a 'white supremacist' label on pumpkin spice lattes, it's clear that nothing's off limits.

The latest target for 'white supremacy' accusations? pumpkin lattes
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Old 07-18-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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This is what it stands for. Unfortunately many who fly it do not. Unfortunately many who do support what it stands for can not really speak out because freedom means you also have the freedom to be a jerk.
Christopher Gadsden, the man that created it was an active and participatory character in the Trans Atlantic slave trade. Arguably one of the worst atrocities in human history. The wharf he constructed Gadsden's wharf was built to bring in slaves who were being held in quarantine on a nearby island. The fact that his flag has come to symbolize liberty, anti-authority and freedom is so ironic and idiotic that its almost beyond human comprehension. If Gadsden's flag represents anything, its the unparalleled hypocrisy and bulls**t that this nation was founded on.
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