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Old 07-18-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Why can't the USA be more like Israel? Universal healthcare, free abortion, subsidized college tuition!


Because our country is run by Greedy Corporations who pay off Greedy Politicians, and their only allegiance
is to make more money for the Greedy Corporations. They seem to be okay with tossing all the money in the world toward the Military...so we keep the machines of war running and keep killing....God forbid we use the money of the people, to actually save lives, improve lives for the people and help people.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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We send them billion$, yet we supposedly can't take care of our own.

Universal healthcare, free abortion, subsidized college tuition! If Israel can do it, and we respect Israel so much, why can't we?
Tell us about the their tax base for starters: tell us how many people are paying no taxes and still getting all the freebys and last but not list tell us the difference in the size of the countries? Then ask the question.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Because our country is run by Greedy Corporations who pay off Greedy Politicians, and their only allegiance
is to make more money for the Greedy Corporations. They seem to be okay with tossing all the money in the world toward the Military...so we keep the machines of war running and keep killing....God forbid we use the money of the people, to actually save lives, improve lives for the people and help people.
Americans love it this way, we don't need no stinkin educated people
nor do we need universal healthcare because the masters will oh so
generously take care of us peasants.
As any educated person can see things are going very smooth here in the USA.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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Like it or not illegals do use our services; some with welfare, some with state subsidies and others for free.

You can't ignore the illegals when it comes to cost because they will use the facilities (hospitals, doctors, schools) regardless if you count them or not.

So you better count them.
But make sure to develop the whole equation on your blackboard and consider the positives as well as the negatives, as everyone who ever employed an illegal must have done.

Eons of Texas ranchers who relied upon multiple generations of illegals to provide the labour to build up their holdings. Decades of oil companies relying upon the grunt work from illegals to manhandle drill-pipe from trucks and trains to the wellhead stacks. Years and years of developers and contractors reliant upon the cheaper-than-dirt labour force to bring housing tracts and commercial enterprises to life while showing a profit.

How about growing veggies in infertile inert sand? Even the guy who fostered the plan to irrigate vast tracts of the Imperial Valley knew it required an expenditure offset to the huge costs of nutrients and irrigation, that was again; the cheap illegal labour that made it possible.

All those businesses along virtually all of your interstate highways that grind to a halt whenever a white Suburban with a green stripe on it enters the parking lot.

That's what's encouraged these illegals to come; AMERICANS hiring them! It ain't solely a "Liberal encouraging them" issue it's everyone of every political stripe hiring them.

The hypocrisy from all fronts is astounding.

You don't need a wall. Take the money for that white elephant and hammer the E-Verify requirement to the point you would the hiring of any government employee, with huge fines and even incarceration for multiple offender CEO's and I guarandamntee your illegal problem ceases to exist overnight.

Yes; the rounding up of illegals with an outstanding 'failure to appear' or criminal warrant is paramount. Along with it the necessary funds to streamline and devote court resources to expeditiously hear/sentence or deport their butts back from whence they came. It has now manifested as an extraordinary conundrum so an extraordinary set of resources should be occasioned to deal with it. BUT; be mindful of the old "baby & bathwater" sword of Damocles

All of this is precepted on the necessity of removing the risk versus reward advantage presently offered to illegals.

Kids in cages without parents etc., etc., has frightened some, but it's also allowed for a rift of morality beliefs. That was not needed and has given the likes of Omar-et-al a platform she would not have been afforded prior.

It's all so frustrating when considering the objective is almost parallel for both parties if they were to simply stop yelling at each other across a great divide while throwing all immigration under the bus in the process.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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Its estimated 50-75% of all illegal immigrants already pays Federal, state and local taxes.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:33 AM
 
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Since the Republican Party is totally against these things... does that mean they are antisemitic?
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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Its estimated 50-75% of all illegal immigrants already pays Federal, state and local taxes.
...... by using stolen SSI numbers?
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Its estimated 50-75% of all illegal immigrants already pays Federal, state and local taxes.
Can you please cite your source for this statistic? Thanks.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Since the Republican Party is totally against these things... does that mean they are antisemitic?



Strange over-focus on aid to Israel and the BDS movement is a hallmark of the Jihad-squad Democratic members of Congress... not the Republican party.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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We send billions more to Muslim-majority countries. Why pick on Israel? (And if they're ahead of Muslim countries economically and technically and scientifically and medically, that's largely because Jews place a big emphasis on education.)
What do you say of the why can't we more like Israel with universal health care, free abortion, subsidized college?
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