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Old 07-18-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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We are at a point where 'American' means white, heterosexual, evangelical born-again Christian, and believing in a strictly enforced patriarchal social order. It means there's one set of social and cultural norms and that everyone must conform and if they don't, they are free to leave. "Freedom and liberty" means the freedom to worship God and live your life by the enforced social norms, but that freedom is not extended to anyone else. It's that simple.

 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Here is where we are: a minority person has a different view of what America should be doing than your traditional Trump-supporting Conservative.
This "minority person" is an anti-American Muslim extremist and an Israel-hater.

I think I support what the crowd was chanting at the rally.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Telling minorities they don't get a say in defining what America is, is not racist?
nope because it isn't about their "race" it's about their beliefs.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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We are at a point where 'American' means white, heterosexual, evangelical born-again Christian, and believing in a strictly enforced patriarchal social order. It means there's one set of social and cultural norms and that everyone must conform and if they don't, they are free to leave. "Freedom and liberty" means the freedom to worship God and live your life by the enforced social norms, but that freedom is not extended to anyone else. It's that simple.
Most liberals believe America should be a socialist country with open borders.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Most liberals believe America should be a socialist country with open borders.
and brown
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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BTW, Trump said they CAN go back.

People who understand the meaning of words can distinguish the difference.

He said tgey can go back, fix their problems and then return to show us how to do it.
Meanwhile his base chanted "Send her back," while Trump stood on stage basking in the racism.

Saying they can come back still doesn't change the racism of telling them to leave, in the first place.

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If you hate America, I really wish you would leave...
I guess Trump hated America when he pointed out all the ways we were failing and needed him to save us, right?
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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You know the left is ashamed of their ideas when all they have is the racist card.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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We are at a point where 'American' means white, heterosexual, evangelical born-again Christian, and believing in a strictly enforced patriarchal social order. It means there's one set of social and cultural norms and that everyone must conform and if they don't, they are free to leave. "Freedom and liberty" means the freedom to worship God and live your life by the enforced social norms, but that freedom is not extended to anyone else. It's that simple.



Thats racist and bigoted


 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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This is so sad how obliviously Trump supporters have exposed their souls to America.

It's no longer an argument that the GOP might tolerate racists, but they don't impact the platform or message. It's no longer an argument that the racists are a marginal slice of the GOP, not worth focusing on.

After watching a Trump rally, with attendees reiterating the racist attack from Trump, it's clear that the racism in the GOP is not a flaw, it's a feature.

Here is where we are: a minority person has a different view of what America should be doing than your traditional Trump-supporting Conservative. The response? "Shut up. YOU don't get a say in how WE run this country." Is that racist enough for you?

But what if you're a minority whose family has been in America for generations? "Shut up. YOU don't get a say in what it means to be AMERICAN. YOU are not one of US." Is that racist enough for you? How is that different than "we don't want your kind here?"

The message from Trump's base and by extension the GOP, by virtue of their silence, is minorities are only allowed in America by the good graces of White people. If minorities don't toe the line, they can GTFO, regardless of how long they've been here. Minorities don't get to tell White people how to run this country.

So at this point, is there any real counter argument against the claim that Trump's entire platform is based on not MAGA, but MAW(hite)A? Nooooope.
"Send her back" is the same as "Vote her out". Nothing racist about it.
 
Old 07-18-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Meanwhile his base chanted "Send her back," while Trump stood on stage basking in the racism.

Saying they can come back still doesn't change the racism of telling them to leave, in the first place.



I guess Trump hated America when he pointed out all the ways we were failing and needed him to save us, right?
Omar should be sent back because she cheated her way in by marrying her brother.
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