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Old 07-24-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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I've heard a lot of talk (many people say) he has a good chance of being re-elected with an even bigger loss in the popular vote.

So, yes, he may be legally elected but the majority of the country doesn't want him. A moral victory for liberals but that doesn't help us pull the levers of power.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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I honestly don't think many Americans are on board with "free" health insurance for illegals that we taxpayers will pay for which all of the major Dem candidates support.

It's bad enough that we have our own health insurance to worry about never mind pay for theirs as well.
They use expensive ER's where the cost is triple. I'm not for free health insurance either and I'm a Democrat. It's ridiculous.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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They use expensive ER's where the cost is triple. I'm not for free health insurance either and I'm a Democrat. It's ridiculous.
Um...do you know what would prevent that?

I want to see universal healthcare for all citizens first though.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:08 PM
 
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I've heard a lot of talk (many people say) he has a good chance of being re-elected with an even bigger loss in the popular vote.

So, yes, he may be legally elected but the majority of the country doesn't want him. A moral victory for liberals but that doesn't help us pull the levers of power.
But what would the popular vote have been w/o non-citizens voting? And don't say there is no proof large numbers voted. There isn't any proof large numbers didn't vote. Why? Because it is all on the honor system. No need to prove citizenship to register to vote or to prove you are who you say you are when you do vote. This is especially so in a State like CA that does not care whether illegals vote or not.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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wow. even leftie Thomas Friedman can’t believe how far left the dem candidates have gone.
I was equally shocked. Never more so than when they said they want to provide free healthcare to non-citizens, when millions of our own citizens don't have health care. And wow....don't they see that that would send a signal out to the world's sick to get within our borders to get free healthcare? That would cripple our country.

Kamala Harris at another time stated she wants reparations. ??? Then she doubled down on her forced busing statements during the debate, by stating or implying there's a place for that now. Yeah, that's a way to get the majority of middle class citizens running to the polls to vote for her.

I was looking for a sensible Democrat to support. I don't see one, with the possible exception of Mayor Pete. But even he is finding he has to change his messaging to get more support. Changing it not in a good way. Even so, Mayor Pete doesn't have much chance of getting the nomination.

I'm not voting for the lunatic in office. Just give me a sensible alternative. Please.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I was equally shocked. Never more so than when they said they want to provide free healthcare to non-citizens, when millions of our own citizens don't have health care. And wow....don't they see that that would send a signal out to the world's sick to get within our borders to get free healthcare? That would cripple our country.

Kamala Harris at another time stated she wants reparations. ??? Then she doubled down on her forced busing statements during the debate, by stating or implying there's a place for that now. Yeah, that's a way to get the majority of middle class citizens running to the polls to vote for her.

I was looking for a sensible Democrat to support. I don't see one, with the possible exception of Mayor Pete. But even he is finding he has to change his messaging to get more support. Changing it not in a good way. Even so, Mayor Pete doesn't have much chance of getting the nomination.

I'm not voting for the lunatic in office. Just give me a sensible alternative. Please.
It already did. We now have "refugees" coming across the border from the ME, Africa and Cuba.
Over 1100 Africans caught at the border in just the past 30 days.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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wow. even leftie Thomas Friedman can’t believe how far left the dem candidates have gone.
The left is handing the victory to President Trump on a silver platter.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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I was equally shocked. Never more so than when they said they want to provide free healthcare to non-citizens, when millions of our own citizens don't have health care. And wow....don't they see that that would send a signal out to the world's sick to get within our borders to get free healthcare? That would cripple our country.

Kamala Harris at another time stated she wants reparations. ??? Then she doubled down on her forced busing statements during the debate, by stating or implying there's a place for that now. Yeah, that's a way to get the majority of middle class citizens running to the polls to vote for her.

I was looking for a sensible Democrat to support. I don't see one, with the possible exception of Mayor Pete. But even he is finding he has to change his messaging to get more support. Changing it not in a good way. Even so, Mayor Pete doesn't have much chance of getting the nomination.

I'm not voting for the lunatic in office. Just give me a sensible alternative. Please.


President Trump may not be the most conventional guy you've seen serve us, but would you rather have just another career politician fail to deliver on campaign promises, all the while caring more for donors than his/her constituents?


The left have no sensible alternatives. None of them.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:27 PM
 
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President Trump may not be the most conventional guy you've seen serve us, but would you rather have just another career politician fail to deliver on campaign promises, all the while caring more for donors than his/her constituents?


The left have no sensible alternatives. None of them.
The only half-way sensible ones who can compete are Klobuchar and Delaney, but neither has a chance to get through the primaries, as they're way too sane for the Democrat primary electorate.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:27 PM
 
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The left is handing it to President Trump on a silver platter.
Just as their grandparents did by choosing McGovern.
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