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Old 07-19-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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MLK's message was to not see skin color nor race, but "content of character". The Four Jihadists only want to see divisive, skin color, gender, ethnicity, etc. All IDENTITY POLITICS all the time, purely to divide. No, I don't think they need to "get out", but they need to be defeated. They are counterproductive to the progress of America.
That was his challenge to racist America.

However, in the same speech he condemned America’s love with White Supremacy. You guys love to white wash MLK so you can use him to make yourselves feel less racist.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Since MLK is dead folks love him and have remixed his speech and basically use one quote to represent him.

Same thing happened with Ali. When he was a young boxer America HATED him but once he was old and harmless he became a hero.
Truth. MLK is the embodiment of the quote "die the hero or live long enough to become the villain."

Every single contemporary of MLK's is absolutely reviled by conservatives today. The only reason they respect him now, is that he didn't live long enough to become their target.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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The argument that Conservatives have now adopted for criticism of America is... If you don't think America is perfect, if you think there's something dark about America's history, if you think there's a fundamental flaw at the core of America... Then you should leave.

Republicans always talk about how much they admire and respect MLK...

MLK who was critical of America
MLK who thought racism was the core of America and White Americans
MLK who thought entire institutions of America should be brought down
MLK who was an avid Socialist and saw it as the fundamental change America needed to make

Soooo... MLK should have GTFO, right?
I agree that the love it or leave it argument is lame.

You can love your country and want to change it for the better.

Trump himself has criticized America and called for change.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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So the President is not allowed to have Free Speech? Has he created a policy to actually throw them out, or has he just expressed HIS OPINION? Which is it? Double standard much?

Free speech for them, but not for HIM, right? You're a hypocrite.
Don't put words in my mouth.

The president can say what he wants. And I can judge him for it.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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He was silenced when he was shot and killed.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Did MLK mock Americans for fearing terrorism?
He perceived America's foreign policy as terroristic--

" . . . the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." He connected the war with economic injustice, arguing that the country needed serious moral change:
A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: "This is not just."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond..._Break_Silence
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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He perceived America's foreign policy as terroristic--

" . . . the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." He connected the war with economic injustice, arguing that the country needed serious moral change:
A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: "This is not just."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond..._Break_Silence
And, of course, he was right as was my former neighbor Mohammed Ali.......the truth is always shocking when it comes to these things.

“My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America,” he said at the time. “And shoot them for what? They never called me ni****, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father. … Shoot them for what? How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail.”

This took such courage that it is hard to imagine these days...
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:04 AM
 
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The argument that Conservatives have now adopted for criticism of America is... If you don't think America is perfect, if you think there's something dark about America's history, if you think there's a fundamental flaw at the core of America... Then you should leave.
Which is interesting since they say the exact opposite to asylum seekers seeking to leave their homes.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Truth. MLK is the embodiment of the quote "die the hero or live long enough to become the villain."

Every single contemporary of MLK's is absolutely reviled by conservatives today. The only reason they respect him now, is that he didn't live long enough to become their target.
Well, there is much truth in that quote!

I've stolen that quote for my own in the form of "know when to get out"....in general the world would be a better place if our stars each shone for a limited period of time.

I've always looked at pols and "leaders" and thought "Why are they always of the last generation?"

No doubt that there can be some wisdom in a limited amount of older good people. But, in general, they should get out of the way and allow those who are going to have to live with the future to plan it.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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Notice "they" don't tell Anarchists (like those here) nor "libertarians" who don't believe in the USA to get out. The Kochs champion debt, open borders and more pollution...as well as libertarian ideals (the buying of government, etc.).

I don't see a movement of "conservatives" against them.....must be missing something?
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