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Old Today, 02:09 PM
 
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I’m usually one not to believe the race card but I feel it’s justified in this case. There was no justification for the guard to have drawn his weapon on the officer. Not only should he be fired, his gun permits should be pulled and he should face criminal charges.
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Old Today, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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If the story is true? The video is there for all to see.
I watched the video. What does race have to do with it?
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Old Today, 02:10 PM
 
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Cops are not allowed in armed, IRS, Social Security, etc. I saw one stopped from entering a soc sec office.
And did they pull a gun on the cop as he was leaving pointing it at his back?
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Old Today, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Iím usually one not to believe the race card but I feel itís justified in this case. There was no justification for the guard to have drawn his weapon on the officer. Not only should he be fired, his gun permits should be pulled and he should face criminal charges.
The security guard has been charged with aggravated menacing.
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Old Today, 02:13 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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In a situation like this it would make more sense to me for the uniformed officer to have his service weapon on his person. Not sitting in his patrol car waiting to be stolen. I can't think of any situation where a police office should leave his service weapon unattended in a car unless it was a rare high security type situation. But an IRS office?
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Old Today, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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I watched the video. What does race have to do with it?
Thatís the title of the article.
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Old Today, 02:13 PM
 
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Cops are not allowed in armed, IRS, Social Security, etc. I saw one stopped from entering a soc sec office.
O.K., I'll take your word for it but that tells me that the guards should not be rent a guard types.
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Old Today, 02:15 PM
 
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Either way. The sheriff exited when asked to leave the gun outside. So the security guard was still in the wrong.
Maybe he "feared for his life"? The excuse has been used for less.
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Old Today, 02:15 PM
 
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synopsis of what I have gleaned from this event :

The police officer went to the IRS office to discuss and perhaps register a complaint about a letter he received from the IRS regarding his tax filing. This is information garnered from the first para of the news article.

Next we read that the security responded due to the counter person alerting him to the police officer's becoming abrupt or belligerent. I deduce this, perhaps mistakenly, by two references; one being the security guy demanding the cop leave his gun in his car and two by the 9/11 caller stating a man with a firearm refusing to leave the premises.

So I'm left thinking there was a slightly adversarial exchange between the IRS counter person and the police officer that triggered the call for the security guy to respond and that guy started off by demanding the cop leave or at the very least leave his firearm in his car before continuing any conversation with the IRS person.

I'm also thinking the police officer told him he could not disarm himself nor was he gonna leave without resolving his issue and that's when the 9/11 call was made and that's probably when the officer realized he'd gone a tad too far and decided leaving was the better course of action.

Now we have the security guy stating sorry, you can't just leave now because you refused when asked before so now we're going full on Rambo with you.

A bunch of bad choices made by all and sundrie made worse by an ill trained and reactionary personality ratcheting it up with the nonsensical gun-pulling and arrest attempt.

Security guy should have calmly and 'one badge to another' suggested to the officer that he'd get better results if he tried a different approach and perhaps come back another time as the counter person was not in a position to adequately deal with his particular problem. I'm left thinking that the officer got a little worked up at the counter and perhaps occasioned the IRS person becoming either frightened or fed up.
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Old Today, 02:16 PM
 
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In a situation like this it would make more sense to me for the uniformed officer to have his service weapon on his person. Not sitting in his patrol car waiting to be stolen. I can't think of any situation where a police office should leave his service weapon unattended in a car unless it was a rare high security type situation. But an IRS office?
Except it violates the law. You can't even take in a pocket knife. No exceptions.
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