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Old Yesterday, 02:18 PM
 
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This is beyond disgusting.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...996.html%3famp

All of a sudden a police officer is somehow a threat to a security guard. And the security guard was, of course, trying to create a reason to shoot the police officer. Disgusting.
Fifty bucks says this security guard is a huge Trump supporter.

Any takers?
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Old Yesterday, 02:20 PM
 
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Thatís the title of the article.
Its a clickbait article to increase racial tension. You wouldnt approve if the roles were switched would you?
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Old Yesterday, 02:20 PM
 
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Fifty bucks says this security guard is a huge Trump supporter.

Any takers?
Hey, look...Trump, Trump, Trump. Get. A. Life.
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Old Yesterday, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Cops are not allowed in armed, IRS, Social Security, etc. I saw one stopped from entering a soc sec office.
That I did not know. Thanks for the info.

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Either way. The sheriff exited when asked to leave the gun outside. So the security guard was still in the wrong.
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The security guard, identified in court documents as Seth Eklund, asked Mr Gaston to leave his gun in his patrol car.

When Mr Gaston replied he couldn’t do that,
he said Mr Eklund became hostile. Mr Eklund accused Mr Gaston of reaching for his weapon, shouting “get your hands off your gun”, even though Mr Gaston said his hands were visible and nowhere near his holster.
By his own statements, that doesn't appear to be the case. Again-the video doesn't show the start of the confrontation. IF as stated by Floorist the LEO is prohibited from entering the building with his firearm (which I regard as every bit as idiotic as banning a concealed weapons permit holder from doing so, but that's another story) and he did so anyway-he was in the wrong. Especially if he refused to leave the gun in the car before before he could enter after being told that he needed to, he was in the wrong. If he was belligerent or threatening enough to cause someone (not the security guard) to call 911, he was in the wrong. And if it's the security guards job to enforce the "no-guns" rule-he was NOT in the wrong. That's a lot of "Ifs". At this point we simply don't have enough info to know, based on the snip of video available.
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Old Yesterday, 02:22 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Except it violates the law. You can't even take in a pocket knife. No exceptions.
Seems pretty strict but I guess the IRS does get a lot of hostility from the general public. So probably a sensible policy.
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Old Yesterday, 02:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur View Post
This is beyond disgusting.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...996.html%3famp

All of a sudden a police officer is somehow a threat to a security guard. And the security guard was, of course, trying to create a reason to shoot the police officer. Disgusting.
If a black person receives the wrong order in the drive thru, it's racism.

Talk about broken records.
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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM
 
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Fifty bucks says this security guard is a huge Trump supporter.

Any takers?
Federal employee who hates cops, must be an Obama voter
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Old Yesterday, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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synopsis of what I have gleaned from this event :

The police officer went to the IRS office to discuss and perhaps register a complaint about a letter he received from the IRS regarding his tax filing. This is information garnered from the first para of the news article.

Next we read that the security responded due to the counter person alerting him to the police officer's becoming abrupt or belligerent. I deduce this, perhaps mistakenly, by two references; one being the security guy demanding the cop leave his gun in his car and two by the 9/11 caller stating a man with a firearm refusing to leave the premises.

So I'm left thinking there was a slightly adversarial exchange between the IRS counter person and the police officer that triggered the call for the security guy to respond and that guy started off by demanding the cop leave or at the very least leave his firearm in his car before continuing any conversation with the IRS person.

I'm also thinking the police officer told him he could not disarm himself nor was he gonna leave without resolving his issue and that's when the 9/11 call was made and that's probably when the officer realized he'd gone a tad too far and decided leaving was the better course of action.

Now we have the security guy stating sorry, you can't just leave now because you refused when asked before so now we're going full on Rambo with you.

A bunch of bad choices made by all and sundrie made worse by an ill trained and reactionary personality ratcheting it up with the nonsensical gun-pulling and arrest attempt.

Security guy should have calmly and 'one badge to another' suggested to the officer that he'd get better results if he tried a different approach and perhaps come back another time as the counter person was not in a position to adequately deal with his particular problem. I'm left thinking that the officer got a little worked up at the counter and perhaps occasioned the IRS person becoming either frightened or fed up.
Thank you for that. It's a pleasure to read a reasoned, rational response on this board.
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Old Yesterday, 02:25 PM
 
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Fifty bucks says this security guard is a huge Trump supporter.

Any takers?
Well, since he was working at a job, the odds favor it.
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Old Yesterday, 02:28 PM
 
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Federal employee who hates cops, must be an Obama voter
A federal employee enforcing the laws he was hired to enforce. There will be a sign on the door prohibiting weapons. Cop was wanting to violate the law.
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