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Old Today, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Are they keeping all the crew members as hostages from both ships?
How many people would that be approximately?
There are 23 people on board the Stena Impero, none are British Citizens, as for the other ship the Liberian registered Mesdar, it has been released and is now free to go on it's way. Merchant Vessels tend to have international crews.

So it's basically a Swedish owned ship, with no British crew, flying under a British flag.

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Jeremy Hunt, the UK foreign secretary, said he was “extremely concerned” at the seizure of the ships. He said the Cobra emergency response committee would be meeting “to review what we know and what we can do to swiftly secure the release of the two vessels”.

“Their crews comprise a range of nationalities, but we understand there are no British citizens on board either ship,” Hunt said. “Our ambassador in Tehran is in contact with the Iranian ministry of foreign affairs to resolve the situation and we are working closely with international partners.

“These seizures are unacceptable. It is essential that freedom of navigation is maintained and that all ships can move safely and freely in the region.”

Iran stokes Gulf tensions by seizing two British-linked oil tankers - The Guardian

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Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt has said he is "extremely concerned" by the seizure of two tankers by Iran.

The Stena Impero is British-flagged and the Mesdar is Liberian-flagged but British owned.

The Mesdar's operator said the vessel was now free to continue its journey after it was boarded by armed guards at around 17:30 BST on Friday.

Iran seizes two UK tankers in Strait of Hormuz - BBC News



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Old Today, 05:06 PM
 
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Start arming all of the ships, or have warships provide escorts. Blow the iranians out of the water if they try to intercept ship.
You can't if they decide to fire first. Or even if they try and you fire....and then well, you're within range of all sorts of other attacks.
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Old Today, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Somali pirates on steroids.
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Old Today, 06:13 PM
 
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This story appears to have been wiped off CNN website.

Oh wait. I found it. It doesn't appear as a news article, but just a little "trending" title.

This should be front page news, not this silly pissing contest between Trump and AOC and others.
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Old Today, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are 23 people on board the Stena Impero, none are British Citizens, as for the other ship the Liberian registered Mesdar, it has been released and is now free to go on it's way. Merchant Vessels tend to have international crews.

So it's basically a Swedish owned ship, with no British crew, flying under a British flag.




Thanks good post on the details. Iran is now poking Trump in the eye although this has not one thing to do with the US. Trump/Netanyahu policy has failed, they need to meet with Iran and settle this diplomatically before something dumb escalates the situation.
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Old Today, 06:25 PM
 
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They are kind, peace loving people- ask any lib.

Omar and AOC will blame Israek for this.
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Old Today, 06:27 PM
 
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Thanks good post on the details. Iran is now poking Trump in the eye although this has not one thing to do with the US. Trump/Netanyahu policy has failed, they need to meet with Iran and settle this diplomatically before something dumb escalates the situation.
Ummmm...... Didnít Obama do that? Look at the wonderful results!
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Old Today, 07:04 PM
 
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I would send special forces in and retrieve the ship.

yep, and the fun thing is that marines and navy seals are already in the area. if the british want to send in their SAS to help out as well, so much the better.
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Old Today, 07:06 PM
 
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This is an indepth article. It appears Iran is doing what it can to get 2017 sanctions by the US against them lifted, which are crippling their oil industry. And the UK is caught in the middle, not wanting to anger their stronger ally the US, but they don't really have a dog in this hunt.

I read a really indepth article earlier this evening, and can't find it again. Tehran is economically crippled, and is trying to strike out at the US and allies to get relief.

I have never sided with Iran before in my life, but sometimes, you have to listen to the other side. So far, they haven't apparently harmed any of the crew of the ship. When one country is crippling the economy of another, maybe they're justified in shouting out?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...ormuz-n1031866
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Old Today, 07:24 PM
 
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Ummmm...... Didnít Obama do that? Look at the wonderful results!
The results were working to everyone's satisfaction until Trump pizzed in the punch bowl. Jeeebus were you sleeping under a rock somewhere?
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