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Old Yesterday, 08:22 PM
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Its about oil and controlling it, the historical reality between Iran the U.S. and British especially from the early 1950's on explain why and how we are here. Frankly i am wondering when instead of merely seizing them Iran starts slinging some Silkworms into a few and shuts down the Gulf. They did within a week gas here would be 8-12 bucks a gallon...and as soon as first American/British bombs start raining down on Iran America/Britain would be attacked from within by Hezbollah and Hamas and how many others. That would require martial law...and then there would be response by Russia and Red China...
The US in the number one oil producer in the world right now.

I think China, Japan, Europe have a real problem on their hands. They need to grow up and start acting like adults. The US interest is in making sure Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon.

IF China, Japan, and Europe are concerned about their oil supplies....well, start acting like grown-ups.
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Old Yesterday, 08:28 PM
 
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Tit for tat. Gibraltar seizes Iran tanker and they seize Brit one. Its really hard to condemn Iran given the circumstances.
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Old Yesterday, 08:31 PM
 
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Tit for tat. Gibraltar seizes Iran tanker and they seize Brit one. Its really hard to condemn Iran given the circumstances.
I agree.
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Old Yesterday, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The results were working to everyone's satisfaction until Trump pizzed in the punch bowl. Jeeebus were you sleeping under a rock somewhere?
The proof that it WASN'T working is overnight they were able to raise their enrichment level to above what was deemed illegal. What does that tell you? They didn't give up anything. They kept everything they had. All they did was switch them off, and You don't even know THAT.
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Tit for tat. Gibraltar seizes Iran tanker and they seize Brit one. Its really hard to condemn Iran given the circumstances.
Fine, then don't complain when next time half their navy is sunk. Let's see if you come out here and give the US your "tit for tat" lecture.
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Old Yesterday, 08:41 PM
 
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Fine, then don't complain when next time half their navy is sunk. Let's see if you come out here and give the US your "tit for tat" lecture.
Riddle me this. Trump keeps saying he does not want war but then agitates one. You cant. Iran was abiding by the agreement. Trump reneged on an american pledge. Then he placed embargoes to cripple their economy. What the F would you do if someone cut off your source of income? And basically arrested you when you went outside your house?

And I WAS in the Navy.
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Old Yesterday, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What the F would you do if someone cut off your source of income?
Bomb Pearl Harbor, of course!
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Old Yesterday, 08:52 PM
 
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Bomb Pearl Harbor, of course!
And your point?
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Old Yesterday, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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This is how Iran asks for help. It's dysfunctional; but it is their way.
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Old Yesterday, 09:14 PM
 
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This is how Iran asks for help. It's dysfunctional; but it is their way.
Here is dysfunctional.

Trump: Obama deal sucked because it only dealt with Nukes and not other weaponry

Trump: Rescind deal and passes embargoes

Iran: Starts development of nuclear enrichment

Trump: Says Iran should stick to original agreement

Trump? Says all he really cares about is not letting Iran get nukes

Talk about idiocracy. Trump played this all wrong.
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