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Old 07-25-2019, 04:13 PM
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Location: Texas
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Itís not discussed because itís not politically correct to talk about things like this and also itís considered racist to even wonder about such a thing.
I've wondered about it so I delved more into it. I found out that American citizens are largely (mostly) to blame for some of the recent disease outbreaks.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:15 PM
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The vaccination rates are very good for Mexico and central America. You should be more afraid the US anti vax movement.
The US anti-vax movement scares me to death. I can't even take my kids places without wondering how many kids there are not vaxxed. And since my children are too young to yet receive certain vaccines, this will be a concern until they are much older.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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These disease outbreaks are inaccurately blamed on immigrants. The fact is most immigrants could care less about the anti-vax agenda. Most of them are perfectly willing to get vaccinations. There are many anti-vaxxer communities within the USA, such as the Christian religious homeschooling groups, that won't vaccinate their children.
Illegal immigrants don't have the required vaccinations.

Source, my wife is Romanian and needed a ton of vaccinations before she could LEGALLY gain immigration status and get a green card.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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The US anti-vax movement scares me to death. I can't even take my kids places without wondering how many kids there are not vaxxed. And since my children are too young to yet receive certain vaccines, this will be a concern until they are much older.
Children currently make up 25% of US population. If you were to somehow vaccinate every child in the US that still will not give you your 95% of the population vaccinated for Herd Immunity. You do understand that, or think that the rest of the population (adults) are fully vaccinated or up to date on their boosters? When you take your children shopping or to Mc'D's how can you possible know that the cashier or others on those lines are fully vaccinated, let alone up to date on their boosters?

Migrants? Immigrants? Unvaccinated/Undervaccinated US Citizen Adults travelling from state to state, country to country, who cannot possibly be tracked or denied exemptions for school.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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We have been over this at least 100 X, Jo. The only vaccine that requires periodic boosters is the DTP family. Everyone over age 10 (the minimum age for getting it) needs a Tdap, and then a Td booster every 10 years thereafter. The rules are different for pregnancy.

Measles, mumps and rubella vaccines give long-term immunity, presumably life long. The measles outbreaks we are seeing in this country have about 90% unvaccinated of any age, and most are children. The mumps outbreaks on college campuses (mostly) and elsewhere comprise about 2-3% of their populations. I've run the numbers many times. We're not seeing outbreaks of diphtheria, few are getting tetanus (the only non-communicable VPD). Even the number of pertussis patients is far less than pre-vaccine.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:38 PM
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Children currently make up 25% of US population. If you were to somehow vaccinate every child in the US that still will not give you your 95% of the population vaccinated for Herd Immunity. You do understand that, or think that the rest of the population (adults) are fully vaccinated or up to date on their boosters? When you take your children shopping or to Mc'D's how can you possible know that the cashier or others on those lines are fully vaccinated, let alone up to date on their boosters?.
The older generation usually got their vaccines. It's the younger ones that I worry about. Non-vaxing wasn't a thing when I was a kid.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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This. We've always had immigration but the jump in measles has occurred with rise of the anti-vax movement. Where I live there are tons of (American citizen) families, mostly in homeschooling communities, who don't vaccinate their children, often for vague "religious" reasons or belief in junk science.
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The vaccination rates are very good for Mexico and central America. You should be more afraid the US anti vax movement.
This anti-vax movement is both perplexing and understandable to me. The reasons may be valid to you personally which is not wrong, but when your choice creates risk to those around you whether you mean it or not is wrong. Same with cigarette smoking.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:57 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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These disease outbreaks are inaccurately blamed on immigrants. The fact is most immigrants could care less about the anti-vax agenda. Most of them are perfectly willing to get vaccinations. There are many anti-vaxxer communities within the USA, such as the Christian religious homeschooling groups, that won't vaccinate their children.
Do you speak for most of them?
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This is most concerning to me, especially since there are recent outbreaks of measles concentrated in areas of large migrant populations (LA, El Paso).

Everything we have done in this country to improve health and eradicate disease is suddenly being thrown out the window.
Michael Savage has been for the past 25 years.

Edit: And shame on me for missing it the first time. They are not 'undocumented immigrants'. They are illegal aliens or illegal immigrants.
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Old 07-25-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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Michael Savage has been for the past 25 years.

Edit: And shame on me for missing it the first time. They are not 'undocumented immigrants'. They are illegal aliens or illegal immigrants.
Okay, Illegal aliens then. Doesn't really matter to me. Someone check these people for diseases when they waltz in please.
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