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Old Today, 10:10 AM
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Do you speak for most of them?
I know many anti-vaxxers and their reasons for not vaccinating have to do with what they call "the devil". Irrational superstition and fears about the modern world.
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Old Today, 11:10 AM
 
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Katarina, go check out some research studies on vaccine hesitancy. There are multiple reasons; some religious, but also a distrust issue. Distrust of Pharms, Medicine, to Authority/Government in general. Not only in the US, but across the world.

If you do not trust the Messenger, you aren't going to trust their Message. Raising my own elderly hand with this, and not just for vaccinations either.

Quote all the science you want, but if people do not believe YOU, they aren't going to listen to what you say.
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Old Today, 12:24 PM
 
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I've read reams of that, and discussed it with you and others many times. However, "vaccine hesitancy" is not the topic of this thread. The vaccination and disease status of undocumented migrants is the topic. This "hesitancy" isn't a big issue in Mexico.
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Old Today, 12:38 PM
 
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I've read reams of that, and discussed it with you and others many times. However, "vaccine hesitancy" is not the topic of this thread. The vaccination and disease status of undocumented migrants is the topic. This "hesitancy" isn't a big issue in Mexico.
OK, well, it seems we agree on one thing. These migrants/immigrants are not causing the Measles outbreaks in this Country. That is coming from US Citizens traveling to other countries, AND Us Citizens traveling from Sate to State carrying it across the US.

Do you disagree with this?
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Old Today, 12:53 PM
 
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OK, well, it seems we agree on one thing. These migrants/immigrants are not causing the Measles outbreaks in this Country. That is coming from US Citizens traveling to other countries, AND Us Citizens traveling from Sate to State carrying it across the US.

Do you disagree with this?
I'm not so sure about the US citizens carrying measles across the US, haven't heard of this happening in great numbers anyway. But no, migrants from Central/South America are not causing measles outbreaks.
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Old Today, 05:54 PM
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Okay, Illegal aliens then. Doesn't really matter to me. Someone check these people for diseases when they waltz in please.
I have nothing against requiring proof of vaccinations for immigration, but I also think American citizens need to get vaccinated.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you catch measles from an American citizen or an undocumented immigrant. The disease will affect you the same way.
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Old Today, 08:52 PM
 
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I have nothing against requiring proof of vaccinations for immigration, but I also think American citizens need to get vaccinated.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you catch measles from an American citizen or an undocumented immigrant. The disease will affect you the same way.
Too true!
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Old Today, 11:30 PM
 
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This is most concerning to me, especially since there are recent outbreaks of measles concentrated in areas of large migrant populations (LA, El Paso).

Everything we have done in this country to improve health and eradicate disease is suddenly being thrown out the window.
Vaccination coverage in El Salvador varies from 90% to 93%, depending on the vaccine, while vaccination coverage ranges from 93% to 98% and 88% to 93% in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively19.Jan 25, 2017
Healthcare Access and Conditions in Guatemala, Honduras, and El ...
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugee....../index.html
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