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Old Yesterday, 11:58 AM
 
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Well, you have to give Trump credit. He tried to cost us more, pollute more and make more money for the fossil fuel companies.

But it's not going to work because progress and productivity and efficiency will win the day! The Free Market Reigns, even as much as Trump tries to force it....

Canada, California and 4 major car markets are taking part in the initial part...

https://www.sfgate.com/hdn/hrlm/p/callback.html

24 State Govs signed on also - obviously representing a serious majority of US Auto Sales.

A Win for the Planet and Progress- a LOSE for Trumpians.

One more little piece of proof why we aren't seeing 10-15% in the stock market and a booming economy...Trump has no plan except "rollbacks" to pollute and cause more suffering. Companies need to have long term goals and plans to prosper.

My prediction is that the entire Auto market will climb on board if
1. The Trump admin doesn't change course
or
2. Trump get re-elected.

This pretty much puts his "dictatorial edicts" into the waste basket.
Meh. So what? If California wants their people to pay more for a car with marginally better mileage, so be it.
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Old Yesterday, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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"Automakers to Trump: Stop trying to force us to pollute more"..

"...But now, the Trump administration is so eager to have cars emit more pollution that even the car companies are fed up with them:"...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.92c81618b9b5
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Old Yesterday, 02:35 PM
 
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"Automakers to Trump: Stop trying to force us to pollute more"..

"...But now, the Trump administration is so eager to have cars emit more pollution that even the car companies are fed up with them:"...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.92c81618b9b5
'forced to pollute more'?

maybe you can answer oldhag1's question since the OP skedaddled:

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Sounds like a great idea for the car makers and those states, but......

I was unaware that Trump forbid car companies to work on invitations for their vehicles or did something to force production of only cars that caused pollution. I must have slept through those announcements or news stories and still canít find them. I hate when people demand links, so would you mind giving me hints as to where might I find them?
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Old Yesterday, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Trump is betting on the wrong horse. The future of ground transport technology is electric vehicles. Even if the US is slow to convert, the remainder of the world will be moving forward and the US risks becoming outdated with its technology exports. Will we be "Great" then? Nope.
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Old Yesterday, 03:21 PM
 
Location: SDL/PDX/RDU
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Smart move by the auto makers. Aside from the fact that California represents the largest domestic market for automobiles, Trump will only be President for so long. Even if he gets re-elected, the costs for retooling, software design and all the other components for emissions control for what may be at best an extra four years isn't even close to worth it at the risk of tanking your best market.
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Old Yesterday, 03:30 PM
 
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One of the four is VOLKSWAGEN

HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

Yea they care about the environment.

Spare me with these political stunts designed to impress mentally inferior simpletons.
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Old Yesterday, 03:45 PM
 
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Trump is betting on the wrong horse. The future of ground transport technology is electric vehicles. Even if the US is slow to convert, the remainder of the world will be moving forward and the US risks becoming outdated with its technology exports. Will we be "Great" then? Nope.
We already are outdated in our transportation technology. The U.S. is made for high speed rail with the vast distances between our shores, but we are still using old 20th century technology because we refuse to spend on our infrastructure to bring us into the 21st century. The rest of the world looks at our trains and literally laughs at us for how backward we are.

Meanwhile, China has built more than 19,000 miles of high speed rail lines, most in the last decade, and have moved more than 9 billion people without a single passenger causality, all while reducing pollution and congestion on the roads. And the rest of Europe has followed suit.

The U.S. is already being left behind.

Last edited by JAMS14; Yesterday at 04:10 PM..
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Old Yesterday, 04:08 PM
 
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Too funny the o.p. crows about a "free market" and Trumps edicts
nothing free market about car co's strategizing to comply with the political edicts eminating from Californias govt.
None of which has anything to do with environmental concerns and everything to do with controlling the people and their money.
California does this sort of stuff all the time.

They know due to the size of their market once something must comply in CA it pretty much will roll out across much of the United States sooner or later. Everything from "inclusive/pro LGBT" textbooks to energy standards and so forth.
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Old Yesterday, 04:14 PM
 
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Too funny the o.p. crows about a "free market" and Trumps edicts
nothing free market about car co's strategizing to comply with the political edicts eminating from Californias govt.
None of which has anything to do with environmental concerns and everything to do with controlling the people and their money.
Lying about the impact of gas mpg standards on carbon emissions and global warming won't get you far on this thread, I imagine.

Once again the moron in chief is foiled by those smarter than him
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Old Yesterday, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
We already are outdated in our transportation technology. The U.S. is made for high speed rail with the vast distances between our shores, but we are still using old 20th century technology because we refuse to spend on our infrastructure to bring us into the 21st century. The rest of the world looks at our trains and literally laughs at us for how backward we are.

Meanwhile, China has built more than 19,000 miles of high speed rail lines, most in the last decade, and have moved more than 9 billion people without a single passenger causality, all while reducing pollution and congestion on the roads. And the rest of Europe has followed suit.

The U.S. is already being left behind.
We are being left behind, yet China continues to steal our technology...

Four Chinese Nationals and Chinese Company Indicted for Conspiracy to Defraud the United States and Evade Sanctions
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