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Old Today, 07:53 AM
 
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Well, you have to give Trump credit. He tried to cost us more, pollute more and make more money for the fossil fuel companies.

But it's not going to work because progress and productivity and efficiency will win the day! The Free Market Reigns, even as much as Trump tries to force it....

Canada, California and 4 major car markets are taking part in the initial part...

https://www.sfgate.com/hdn/hrlm/p/callback.html

24 State Govs signed on also - obviously representing a serious majority of US Auto Sales.

A Win for the Planet and Progress- a LOSE for Trumpians.

One more little piece of proof why we aren't seeing 10-15% in the stock market and a booming economy...Trump has no plan except "rollbacks" to pollute and cause more suffering. Companies need to have long term goals and plans to prosper.

My prediction is that the entire Auto market will climb on board if
1. The Trump admin doesn't change course
or
2. Trump get re-elected.

This pretty much puts his "dictatorial edicts" into the waste basket.
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Old Today, 07:55 AM
 
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Fix the link please
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Old Today, 07:58 AM
 
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Why does that idiot want to pollute the planet even more? His idiocy is enigmatic.
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Old Today, 07:58 AM
 
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The Free Market Reigns, even as much as Trump tries to force it....
the very CAFE standards trump is trying to relax was NOT an effort to 'force it'?

lmao!


btw, your link doesn't work.
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Old Today, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Fix the link please
Conservatives continue cleaning up the mess left by liberals... Here's the link.

Major automakers strike climate deal with California, rebuffing Trump's mileage freeze



News flash... free markets/capitalism allow people to collaborate and undertake projects on their own. The federal government is not necessary. If they can do this without government intervention and sustain it - you have my approval.
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Old Today, 08:13 AM
 
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Too funny the o.p. crows about a "free market" and Trumps edicts
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In a joint statement, the four companies said their decision to hash out a deal with California was driven by a need for predictability, as well as a desire to reduce compliance costs, keep vehicles affordable for customers and be good environmental stewards.
nothing free market about car co's strategizing to comply with the political edicts eminating from Californias govt.
None of which has anything to do with environmental concerns and everything to do with controlling the people and their money.
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Old Today, 08:22 AM
 
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Conservatives continue cleaning up the mess left by liberals... Here's the link.

Major automakers strike climate deal with California, rebuffing Trump's mileage freeze



News flash... free markets/capitalism allow people to collaborate and undertake projects on their own. The federal government is not necessary. If they can do this without government intervention and sustain it - you have my approval.
And gist of the story is automakers "striking a deal" with California's politicians to offer cars to their liking, which shouldn't be confused with building cars that their customers want, which of course would be "free market"
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Old Today, 08:30 AM
 
Location: USA
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Too funny the o.p. crows about a "free market" and Trumps edicts
nothing free market about car co's strategizing to comply with the political edicts eminating from Californias govt.
None of which has anything to do with environmental concerns and everything to do with controlling the people and their money.
All the companies are trying to do is comply with the California laws in order to SELL CARS. California can pass any laws they want, and it is a big enough market for companies to want to comply. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP. The OP is just has TDS dementia.
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Old Today, 08:30 AM
 
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Auto makers would have a very hard time making two different sets of vehicles for different markets. They decided to go with the left wing hippies instead of the right wing boor.

Rational decision by them. This of course means reducing choice of consumers not in CA, but life goes on. Not sure how you would build an F150 that gets 50 MPG. Ford's problem. Not mine.
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Old Today, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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OK - had to go to the bottom of the article...

In addition, automakers will receive significant credits for adopting climate-friendly technologies. Under both California's and the federal government's fuel economy program, firms can receive credits toward meeting annual targets several ways, including cooling cars more effectively through less-polluting refrigerants and selling more electric vehicles.

So it's not totally a free market endeavor. Why not? I can understand for general design principles why a car would need some government oversight to make sure a company doesn't put a total bomb out on the roadways... but why the need for kickbacks if you have a product that people will want?


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And gist of the story is automakers "striking a deal" with California's politicians to offer cars to their liking, which shouldn't be confused with building cars that their customers want, which of course would be "free market"
Yep - I see it now.
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