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Old 07-25-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.

"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.

"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that.



"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."
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Old 07-25-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well that was until Trump won. Then everything prior got "forgotten".
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:13 PM
 
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Didya want him to tell the voters elections are rigged?
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Didya want him to tell the voters elections are rigged?
But elections aren't rigged. No group took over the voting machines and changed votes.
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Well of course the jerk is going to try to deny what was happening right under his nose. This way he can plead ignorance
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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But elections aren't rigged. No group took over the voting machines and changed votes.
And you know this how?

I have seen ways to rig voting machines demonstrated at government meetings by the machine reps for the last 40 years. It's not easy but it can be done. IIRC, Trump won in 1 state by 10000 votes.

In my state that's less than 1 vote per precinct. I know because I was the designated recount person for the candidate in my populated county.

They wouldn't have to rig the machines. Just throw out the provisional ballots.

Even paper ballots can be suspect. Just study up on LBJ and Duval county.
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:26 PM
 
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...or_stolen.html


In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.

"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.

"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that.



"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."
They, meaning the collective left, also speculated for weeks before the election that Trump would not accept defeat. Notice, it’s always the Democrats who project. Take a look at how they conspired with the Russians, and now try to project that onto the President.
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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Well that was until Trump won. Then everything prior got "forgotten".
truer words were never spoken..
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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The difference between Obama supporters and Trump supporters is that Obama supporters clearly state when they think Obama was wrong while Trump supporters bury their heads in the sand and claim nothing is wrong. No politicians is right 100% of the time, not Obama, neither of the Bushes, Clintons and Trump. No one.
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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The difference between Obama supporters and Trump supporters is that Obama supporters clearly state when they think Obama was wrong while Trump supporters bury their heads in the sand and claim nothing is wrong. No politicians is right 100% of the time, not Obama, neither of the Bushes, Clintons and Trump. No one.
They did?! Examples?
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