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Old 07-26-2019, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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OK, there is no global temperature record predating the satellite era.

Surface temperatures are, in fact, the end result of countless independent and varying factors.

CO2 is one of those factors, in theory, but in reality, there doesn't appear to be a direct correlation.

Past temperature swings (Little Ice Age, Medieval Warming Period, etc.) came and went without a significant change to CO2 levels.

Should be a more or less linear relationship between CO2 and surface temperature with an increase/decrease in carbon content preceding the temperature swing, but that relationship doesn't seem to exist.

If you can't name the specific drivers of surface temperature in play then, you can't rule them out now.

Obviously, H2O plays a far more important role than anything else, but it isn't often mentioned.

Cloud cover, along with many other factors, has a huge impact on surface temperature, but you can't tax a cloud, so it isn't discussed.
There actually is a temperature record predating satellites.


There doesn't appear to be a correlation between CO2 and warming, according to what scientific study. Its not always linear but there is certainly a correlation. What scientist indicated it has to be linear.


H2O is always mentioned, its not a driver its a result. Science indicates warmer temperatures from increased CO2 result in increased moisture in our atmosphere.


Do you have a source to back up all your claims or are these just your random thoughts.
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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When are liberals going to take climate change seriously?
Barbra Streisand, a climate change activist, just flew her three dogs 10,000 Miles on a separate private jet so they could hear her concert.
Al Gore has the carbon footprint of Godzilla.
Oprah, another climate activist, has at least six highly wasteful mega mansions and a private jet.
How many elitist liberals drive around in gas guzzling stretch limos, have multiple mega mansions, and wasteful conspicuous consumption?????
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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When are liberals going to take climate change seriously?
Barbra Streisand, a climate change activist, just flew her three dogs 10,000 Miles on a separate private jet so they could hear her concert.
Al Gore has the carbon footprint of Godzilla.
Oprah, another climate activist, has at least six highly wasteful mega mansions and a private jet.
How many elitist liberals drive around in gas guzzling stretch limos, have multiple mega mansions, and wasteful conspicuous consumption?????
Meanwhile, they want the rest of us, little people, to stop eating meat and live in efficient apartments near public transit.
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Meanwhile, they want the rest of us, little people, to stop eating meat and live in efficient apartments near public transit.
No not really, just better CAFE standards and more restrictions on coal fired plants.


I know that would be a brutal change,
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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No not really, just better CAFE standards and more restrictions on coal fired plants.


I know that would be a brutal change,
Have you heard of the Green New Deal? It proses a lot more than better CAFE standards and restrictions on coal-fired plants.
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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No not really, just better CAFE standards and more restrictions on coal fired plants.


I know that would be a brutal change,
we're not doing it....the USA emissions are back to 1990 levels

but it would probably kill the Chinese

who's emitting CO2 > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:42 PM
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Location: New York
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OK, 108 is hot.

Solution?

And don't say, we're going to take rich people's money and distribute it as we see fit.
They hide behind science and then completely ignore it.

There is NOTHING we can do about the climate.

Besides the OP is showing how unabashed contradictions work. The AGW fools are the ones who keep saying "this is about climate, not weather" and as soon as there is a weather event they go all batcrap crazy.

They play both sides of every argument. You cannot have a rational conversation with irrational people.


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we're not doing it....the USA emissions are back to 1990 levels

but it would probably kill the Chinese

who's emitting CO2 > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Gore and all the other elites who are part of the CCC stand to make billions.


Just think, if we throw $1B into Gore's bank account, the world will be saved!!!
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Well it's good news for the Air Conditioning business anyway. These increasing weather extremes will be more of a draw on the power supplies though, so we'll need more power plants. Not to mention bigger budgets to fix the increasingly frequent emergencies.

But, as Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson says, "we will adapt to this".
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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..the highest temperature ever recorded in North America....besides Death Valley...was

113F.....July 5, 1937....... Saskatchewan, Canada

that was a "weather extreme".......82 years ago

the coldest temperature ever recorded in the contiguous U.S. ....was 70 degrees below zero at Rogers Pass, Montana,
...on Jan. 20, 1954........

that was a "weather extreme"......65 years ago

Florida dropped 2 degrees...below zero....the first and only time.....Feb. 13, 1899

that was a "weather extreme"...... 120 years ago

highest temperature ever recorded in Florida.........109F..........June 29, 1931

that was a "weather extreme".......88 years ago
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Have you heard of the Green New Deal? It proses a lot more than better CAFE standards and restrictions on coal-fired plants.
It will lower the increase in the rising oceans by a whopping two centimeters.
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