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Old 07-25-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: USA
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Not one European country is compliant with their commitments....they need to learn from us to reduce pollution as we have led the world the last 2 years in reductions since we got out of their theft agreement.
"Do as I say, not as I do" says the Leftists
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:55 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yeah, Volkswagen fiasco.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:56 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Air conditioning can be carbon neutral -- run it off of solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear or other non-fossil fuel. Cars? China is the world's largest market for electric cars. GM is spending $11 Bil on developing electric vehicles, including trucks. Just about every other major car manufacturer worldwide is going all in for electric power.

I see this fallacy a lot from climate deniers: they say we have to sacrifice our lifestyle if we give up fossil fuel energy. We don't. California is undergoing a massive shift from fossil fuel electricity to green power. I haven't had to alter my lifestyle one bit.
Well I hope GM does better than the Volt. What a dud.

53 miles of all electric driving range. Whoa talk about a daily driver if you have any distance to go. Then a whooping 42 mpg in Hybrid mode. My 1986 Honda got 50 MPG!!!!!!

My Honda City, where I live now gets 42 to 45 mpg. And it didn't cost $35,000.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:03 PM
 
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"Climate models," lol.


I fondly recall my time as a 4th grader back in the 1980s. We were told by alarmists that the rain forests would be gone in 10 years.


Guess what? There are still rain forests in 2019.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Air conditioning can be carbon neutral -- run it off of solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear or other non-fossil fuel. Cars? China is the world's largest market for electric cars. GM is spending $11 Bil on developing electric vehicles, including trucks. Just about every other major car manufacturer worldwide is going all in for electric power.

I see this fallacy a lot from climate deniers: they say we have to sacrifice our lifestyle if we give up fossil fuel energy. We don't. California is undergoing a massive shift from fossil fuel electricity to green power. I haven't had to alter my lifestyle one bit.
Lol. You believe the manufacture of EVs and ac units is carbon neutral?

Wow, you are exceptionally ignorant of things like plastics, batteries, processors, etc.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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"Climate models," lol.


I fondly recall my time as a 4th grader back in the 1980s. We were told by alarmists that the rain forests would be gone in 10 years.


Guess what? There are still rain forests in 2019.
They believe manufacturing electric cars is carbon neutral, so.....
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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They believe manufacturing electric cars is carbon neutral, so.....
My favorite is the liberals who buy PRIUS cars. Those things are made out of baby manatees and have a carbon footprint bigger than any other car on the market.


But, I wouldn't expect more from the science denying left wing nuts who value virtue signaling more than reality.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Climate models," lol.


I fondly recall my time as a 4th grader back in the 1980s. We were told by alarmists that the rain forests would be gone in 10 years.


Guess what? There are still rain forests in 2019.
Sure you did.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Looks like we are on to another record setting year.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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I tend to raise an eyebrow when a closed circle of "experts" support their colleagues' "findings", when all of them depend upon these "findings" (and continuing funding and grants) for their livelihood/reputation.
Especially when all their past models were incorrect. Remember when we had a different twelve years to fix the climate or it would be irreversible? That time has come and gone a few times in my lifetime. I want to see how theyíre going to force everyone to get rid of their gas fueled cars and buy electric. And if Brooklynís Grid couldnít handle a bunch of people turning on their air conditioners, how are they going to handle that? And where will all that energy come from? Iím pretty sure wind and solar isnít going to cover it.

Iím sure there will come a day when all this can happen, but that day is not in less ten years.
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