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Old 07-26-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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So the warming is causing the cooling? Got it.
The warming causes blizzards. If you paid attention before a blizzard if you live in an area.. You'll notice before one hits a few days before it are warmer than "normal".. But again per usual your simple minds can't grasp the thoughts of meteorology and basic science.

No snow and ice storms will not just go away in a warmer world.

You are picturing a world that is 25 degrees warmer everywhere when you think of the warmer earth and these warming situations.

What will end up happening is a world that is 2-4 degrees warmer with more storms and systems.

With all this said I don't buy into the main causes of climate change even being things we control (or want to)

The biggest man made climate changer is likely agriculture.. But we aren't going to stop feeding ourselves..
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Perhaps people who don't understand man's impact on CO2 levels and why the world's scientists talk about man made climate change should actually take the time to look at the scientific papers. Of course, they would never do THAT so

a simple explanation can be found here on NASA's web page:

https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_res...arbon-dioxide/


I'm sure we'd all be happy to hear from posters who would like to argue with the scientists at NASA. And please- forget the conspiracy theories. Argue the scientific evidence.

OK, there is no global temperature record predating the satellite era.

Surface temperatures are, in fact, the end result of countless independent and varying factors.

CO2 is one of those factors, in theory, but in reality, there doesn't appear to be a direct correlation.

Past temperature swings (Little Ice Age, Medieval Warming Period, etc.) came and went without a significant change to CO2 levels.

Should be a more or less linear relationship between CO2 and surface temperature with an increase/decrease in carbon content preceding the temperature swing, but that relationship doesn't seem to exist.

If you can't name the specific drivers of surface temperature in play then, you can't rule them out now.

Obviously, H2O plays a far more important role than anything else, but it isn't often mentioned.

Cloud cover, along with many other factors, has a huge impact on surface temperature, but you can't tax a cloud, so it isn't discussed.
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Old 07-26-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Oh yeah? 10 years ago the right wingers said there was no climate change and the scientists were just making all this stuff up to get grant money.

Nowadays it's "nobody disputes climate change..............but it's not man made" because the previous canard looks ridiculous anymore.
I and many conservatives dispute the earth is getting warmer.

What is ridiculous is your End Times prophecies.
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Old 07-26-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I see that the deniers have their blinders firmly in place today.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Or I walk outside and observe the climate is similar to what it was back in the 80s.

A few weeks ago in June in South Carolina, it was in the 70s for a couple of days.

But I'm supposed to get hysterical and believe the earth is doomed b/c liberals want to scare up some votes with alarmism wrapped up in rhetoric about Science.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Or I walk outside and observe the climate is similar to what it was back in the 80s.

A few weeks ago in June in South Carolina, it was in the 70s for a couple of days.

But I'm supposed to get hysterical and believe the earth is doomed b/c liberals want to scare up some votes with alarmism wrapped up in rhetoric about Science.
It's more about taking your wealth and property away than votes but votes are a way to get power to take away your property and rights so very connected.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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The warming causes blizzards. If you paid attention before a blizzard if you live in an area.. You'll notice before one hits a few days before it are warmer than "normal".. But again per usual your simple minds can't grasp the thoughts of meteorology and basic science.

No snow and ice storms will not just go away in a warmer world.

You are picturing a world that is 25 degrees warmer everywhere when you think of the warmer earth and these warming situations.

What will end up happening is a world that is 2-4 degrees warmer with more storms and systems.

With all this said I don't buy into the main causes of climate change even being things we control (or want to)

The biggest man made climate changer is likely agriculture.. But we aren't going to stop feeding ourselves..


black is white, warm is cold


All is well with liberals today.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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We are having a record cool summer in Texas.

It's called an El Nino Summer. Plenty of rain and cool weather. The jet stream has shifted.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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So the warming is causing the cooling? Got it.
Down is up and up is down or sideways or whatever backs up their view.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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OK, there is no global temperature record predating the satellite era.

Surface temperatures are, in fact, the end result of countless independent and varying factors.

CO2 is one of those factors, in theory, but in reality, there doesn't appear to be a direct correlation.

Past temperature swings (Little Ice Age, Medieval Warming Period, etc.) came and went without a significant change to CO2 levels.

Should be a more or less linear relationship between CO2 and surface temperature with an increase/decrease in carbon content preceding the temperature swing, but that relationship doesn't seem to exist.

If you can't name the specific drivers of surface temperature in play then, you can't rule them out now.

Obviously, H2O plays a far more important role than anything else, but it isn't often mentioned.

Cloud cover, along with many other factors, has a huge impact on surface temperature, but you can't tax a cloud, so it isn't discussed.


Don't point out the obvious to the AGW cult, as they have closed their minds to any rational thought. They have vacated any ability to evaluate information for themselves and just dutifully obey the cult.


The AGW crowd understands essentially nothing about the physics of IR energy and CO2, the carbon cycle, the buffering of the oceans, and natural factors that have influenced climate for millions of years.


They have one answer, and one answer only, for everything. It is like a child who discovers the answer "2" correctly for a question (quite by accident), then answers every other question with the response, "2"!
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