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Old 07-25-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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So why wasn't there similar outrage over the theater production of "Hamilton"? Just more hypocrisy from some members of the left.

https://movieweb.com/harriet-trailer...cynthia-erivo/

Personally, I am looking forward very much to seeing this movie ("Harriet", about the life of Harriet Tubman in the years just before the Civil War) because judging from the trailer and what else I have read about it, I think it will be an excellent movie.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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So why wasn't there similar outrage over the theater production of "Hamilton"? Just more hypocrisy from some members of the left.

https://movieweb.com/harriet-trailer...cynthia-erivo/

Personally, I am looking forward very much to seeing this movie ("Harriet", about the life of Harriet Tubman in the years just before the Civil War) because judging from the trailer and what else I have read about it, I think it will be an excellent movie.
Hamilton is a deliberate alternative take on history. It's not the same thing as casting a British actor in the role of an iconic African-American hero.

It's the producers' rights to cast whomever they choose, but this is a kind of bone-headed move, IMO. They have alienated much of the AA community right out of the gate.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Hamilton is a deliberate alternative take on history. It's not the same thing as casting a British actor in the role of an iconic African-American hero.

It's the producers' rights to cast whomever they choose, but this is a kind of bone-headed move, IMO. They have alienated much of the AA community right out of the gate.

People who are butt hurt over this casting decision need to get over themselves.

I mean, how far down the rabbit hole are you willing to go?

Maybe you should only cast someone in the role who was born an actual slave.

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Old 07-25-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Hamilton is a deliberate alternative take on history. It's not the same thing as casting a British actor in the role of an iconic African-American hero.

It's the producers' rights to cast whomever they choose, but this is a kind of bone-headed move, IMO. They have alienated much of the AA community right out of the gate.
But "Hamilton" was nevertheless based on REAL people. Yes, it was an alternative take, but it doesn't change the fact that some black actors portrayed actual white people. I think that is much more of a stretch than having a black Brit play a black American. British whites have played American whites hundreds -- and probably thousands -- of times. I doubt if any black person would not object if there was a musical version based on the life of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Dr. King and Marian Anderson were played by whites.

P.S. Many people consider Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, etc. to be iconic American heroes, too -- although I don't think many people think of them as Anglo-American heroes.

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Old 07-25-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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In a way, I kind of see the point of some of those complaining.

But to me it touches upon something I've been mentioning for a while. American film makers seem to cast a lot of foreign actors in many leading roles on TV and movies, but foreign studios don't seem to do the same.

This is why Hollywood casts actors like Jackie Chan instead of homegrown Asian American actors.

Maybe a small detail but still notable.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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She is black so what’s the problem.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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But "Hamilton" was nevertheless based on REAL people. Yes, it was an alternative take, but it doesn't change the fact that some black actors portrayed actual white people. I think that is much more of a stretch than having a black Brit play a black American. British whites have played American whites hundreds -- and probably thousands -- of times. I doubt if any black person would not object if there was musical version based on the life of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Dr. King and Marian Anderson were played by whites.

P.S. Many people consider Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, etc. to be iconic American heroes, too -- although I don't think many people think of them as Anglo-American heroes.

Have you seen Hamilton? Having black/ethinic actors play the Founding Fathers was an intregal part of LMM's storytelling.

I'm also pretty sure the real Hamilton and Jefferson didn't rap either.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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She is black so what’s the problem.
Guess they wanted an "African-American" vs. a Black British woman for authenticity. That makes sense but at least it wasn't Whitewashing!
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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But "Hamilton" was nevertheless based on REAL people. Yes, it was an alternative take, but it doesn't change the fact that some black actors portrayed actual white people.
Yeah. So? That's kind of the definition of an alternative take on an historical event. Which has nothing to do with what your thread is about.

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I think that is much more of a stretch than having a black Brit play a black American. British whites have played American whites hundreds -- and probably thousands -- of times.
Again, the producers have a right to cast whomever they choose. I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that they have probably alienated a large segment of their target audience by not choosing an African-American actor to play the role of a woman who is important to the AA community in this country. It will be interesting to see what happens at the box office in the U.S.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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What is it with these Loons ? What is the problem what is the real outrage? When I clicked on the link I thought I was going to see a British actress wearing black face or something that would cause a real outrage but no they are splitting hairs as usual and somehow making black not black enough.



I think it sounds like it will be an interesting movie about a pivotal woman in a pivotal time in our History.



I will watch the movie unlike the upcoming James Bond installment where 007 is being replaced with a woman that happens to be black. I'd say the producers of that one are trying to create a stir and check the Loony Liberal agenda boxes.
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