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Old 07-27-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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Which will make it all that more delicious when some day in the future a Democratic president decides to bypass the will of Congress on their pet project. Turnabout is fair play.
There will still be 5 conservatives on SCOTUS to reign in whatever the next unhinged liberal tries. In other words, you'll still lose. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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Which will make it all that more delicious when some day in the future a Democratic president decides to bypass the will of Congress on their pet project. Turnabout is fair play.
Obama passed 276 executive orders. Most famous one was DACA

Just in case you forgot
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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There will still be 5 conservatives on SCOTUS to reign in whatever the next unhinged liberal tries. In other words, you'll still lose. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Newest 2, so youthful, they will greet the 2048 POTUS winner.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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There will still be 5 conservatives on SCOTUS to reign in whatever the next unhinged liberal tries. In other words, you'll still lose. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Yuppers. The one thing the "orange one" did was stack SCOTUS. That's all I wanted and I got it back with change. The left can go grab some safe space, safety pins and binkies.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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The Federal Law making the employment of undocumented people a crime is now 33 years old. With the exception of handful of over the top egregious employment behaviors, employer consequences have been insignificant.

The handful of states that have mandated eVerify of all employees designed their laws with intentional loopholes.

Politicians conspire to make it a partisan issue to avoid taking action. Has not mattered which party had the majority or sat the oval. GOING AFTER EMPLOYERS IS POLITICAL SUICIDE.

Seems to me most folk love cheap labor.

No wall is high enough nor patrols deep enough to make a dent so long as employers continue to hire undocumented people as employees or independent contractors and face no serious consequences for doing so.
Back in the 80's, they used to ask for your paperwork when you got a job.

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Trump's wall is not unrelated to climate change. Global warming is already causing mass migration, and this is expected to grow significantly as agriculture is increasingly impacted. What we've seen thus far in terms of mass human migration across the border is just an early indicator. It should increase significantly in the decades ahead as population sizes become unsustainable and the optimum farm lands move ever further north. If we didn't build a wall now, we likely would build it a couple of decades from now.

https://www.iom.int/migration-and-climate-change-0
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/rese...ation-dynamics

The future is not looking great.
Oh, for fu$ks sake. When are you lefties going to realize they are coming here for the free stuff? Jesus, we are giving them free healthcare now. YOU don't even get that.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Now me? I would consider securing our border as part of our National defense. Evidently many of our allies and other nations consider securing their borders part of their national defense.

https://www.freedomworks.org/content...entagon-budget

Then we have the hundreds of bases we maintain in allied countries. Countries like Germany who refuse to honor their NATO commitments.

Imagine what we could do with the billions saved by shutting down just a few bases.

Imagine what we would save if we backed out of Syria completely and let the Syrians deal with Syrians.

I am happy to see defense money being spent on our own defense for a change.
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:01 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Trump wins again..... AMEN
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And just think, the Democrats have once again created a huge unnecessary, dramatic circus because of their hatred for one man. President Trump would have been willing to work with the Democrats to get things done on a whole host of issues, including immigration if they would have just dealt with him and agreed to sensible border security.

Of course, we know they don't want border security, as shown at the Democrat debates in June. They are counting on the children of illegals to help them win elections going forward.
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True, Dems have been stalling and blocking for years any attempt at border security, and literally triple downed when Trump was elected. We’d have had the wall almost finished by now if they’d have quit blocking him every step of the way.

Trump was offered a deal with democrats that gave him $25 billion to build the wall (but he refused the deal.)
The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't | MSNBC
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...wall-slip-away
https://www.politifact.com/virginia/...-nixing-25-bi/

How is getting $2.5 billion in wall funding instead of $25 billion winning?

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Now get that border secured !!!!!!
Trump "Rejected Homeland Security’s request for a surveillance system in the Rio Grande Valley."

Trump "Rejected a $7.9 million request from Customs and Border Protection to upgrade its P-3 surveillance aircraft, which tracks drugs being shipped from Peru, Colombia, and other countries, and which was responsible for the seizure of 193,197 pounds of cocaine in 2016."

Trump is "seeking to delay a $15 million request to buy 15 new Coastal Interceptor boats in order to keep pace with the faster boats being used by smugglers."

And Trump Cut "almost 200 of the 500 canine units that officials say play an integral role in preventing smuggling and terrorism."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...r-wall-fantasy

"But the proposal that most alarmed border security experts was the denial of funding for new customs officers, who man the US's ports of entry and in the last fiscal year denied 200,000 travelers from entering, prevented the smuggling of 600,000 pounds of drugs, and intercepted roughly $70 million in illicit currency largely destined for Mexican drug cartels."
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...or-wall-2018-1

Do you honestly believe Trump is improving border security?


And Trump's public claims of desiring a wall are pure political BS.

Trump’s campaign advisers invented the border wall idea as a 'memory trick' to remind Trump to talk about immigrants in speeches. The border wall "was cooked up as a mnemonic device of sorts, to make sure their candidate—who hated reading from a script but loved boasting about himself and his talents as a builder—would remember to talk about immigration.”

But when Trump used the wall memory trick the crowds at his rallies cheered, so the Trump campaign made the border wall part of their platform.

The only reason we are even talking about a border wall is because Trump couldn't remember to talk about immigration in speeches (Trump never even wanted a border wall.)

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campa...lammed-1280503
https://www.inquisitr.com/5237627/tr...-memory-trick/

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Old 07-27-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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There will still be 5 conservatives on SCOTUS to reign in whatever the next unhinged liberal tries. In other words, you'll still lose. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Make that 6, unless RBG somehow makes it through 2024, into her 90s, and then somehow talks President Ivanka into appointing another leftist fanatic in her place.
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Which will make it all that more delicious when some day in the future a Democratic president decides to bypass the will of Congress on their pet project. Turnabout is fair play.
They've been doing that for decades. As another poster said here, he not only bypassed the will of Congress, but deliberately violated it with DACA. The Senate had VOTED DOWN the Dreamers. And Obama simply ignored this constitutional rejection and issued an EO to implement DACA over Congress's explicit rejection of it.
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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So we take money From the military use it to build a wall that won’t work and Gods forbid we come under attack.” We have Trump to thank for it!!
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