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Old 07-27-2019, 08:16 AM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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So you can't get thrown out of college for misbehavior in the Frat or the way you act?

You need to have a discussion with Fartwell at Liberty who is measuring the thoughts of each and every faculty member and student and dispensing with those who don't support Trump.
Its a public university, bound to not violate the constitutional rights of its students, etc. Certain speech/assembly can be limited under certain specific circumstances, but this is not what we are dealing with here. The students' behavior of posing next to the sign is totally protected.

 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:17 AM
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Some people did some things that a jury found them not guilty of.

Right Rep Omar?
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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Its a public university, bound to not violate the constitutional rights of its students, etc. Certain speech/assembly can be limited under certain specific circumstances, but this is not what we are dealing with here. The students' behavior of posing next to the sign is totally protected.
You seem confident of that opinion.

So, where is the line in a state institution. Could they hold up signs and rifles saying "Black Folks should not vote" on campus? Could they start a club entitled "We Hate People of Color who are clearly inferior to us"??

I'm asking in all seriousness since you seem so sure of yourself. Give us examples of where the line is...if it even exists.

Is it simply that there is no line unless you do physical harm to an individuals during such an activity?
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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It might be.

There are laws against terrorism and brandishing guns in front of such a sign are exactly what the Klan did - intimidation of an entire class of people!

You know, what the Right calls "Terrorism" and spent 5 Trillion in attempt to suppress???





Are you comparing terrorism which are acts of violence against any group that does not share the same religious views with racist intimidation where one group doesn't like another simply because they look and act in a different way? Hmmmm I can see the similarities but I can also see that one has nothing to do with the other. The klan is against black people while terrorists hate everyone including their own.



Did we spend $5 Trillion to suppress terrorism or to defeat it? I don't know but the attempt to bring safety and security to people that don't want it is a losing proposition.





I think these young men are stupid to pose for such a photo and if they did shoot the sign they should be charged to replace it and clean up the site of trash for the next year in community service.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:35 AM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 7 days ago)
 
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You seem confident of that opinion.

So, where is the line in a state institution. Could they hold up signs and rifles saying "Black Folks should not vote" on campus? Could they start a club entitled "We Hate People of Color who are clearly inferior to us"??

I'm asking in all seriousness since you seem so sure of yourself. Give us examples of where the line is...if it even exists.

Is it simply that there is no line unless you do physical harm to an individuals during such an activity?
There are general exceptions to the free speech principles in the First Amendment. These include incitement (expressing an immediate or imminent threat to do violence), libel, child pornography, appropriating speech owned by others, etc.

Outside of these general exceptions, attempts to restrict speech must satisfy strict scrutiny. That is that the government must show that it has a compelling interest in regulating that speech and that the measures taken to regulate the speech are narrowly tailored to achieving that regulation.

The Supreme Court has upheld the free speech rights of even the Westboro Baptist Church to picket the funerals of dead soldiers using horrific language such as "thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates f#%s" as there is no compelling government interest in merely regulating speech that some find offensive; that's the exact purpose of the First Amendment.

Now, as applied to public schools, the courts have given the government more leeway to regulate certain speech, but this has been largely limited to the primary and secondary school forum as there is a special responsibility that officials have to minors that is not present with, say, grown university students.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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It might be.

There are laws against terrorism and brandishing guns in front of such a sign are exactly what the Klan did - intimidation of an entire class of people!

You know, what the Right calls "Terrorism" and spent 5 Trillion in attempt to suppress???



Lol.....


I think your definition of terrorism needs a little work.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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No, you can't. They have this thing called free will. If Ole' Miss wants to kick them out, that's their call. I'm sure libs will be calling for them to be brought up on hate crime charges. They're *******s, being an ******* isn't a crime, yet.
Vandalism is a crime. One could also interpret those white boys holding riffles, by the memorial that marks the site where a young black boy was lynched, as a threat.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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Vandalism is a crime. One could also interpret those white boys holding riffles, by the memorial that marks the site where a young black boy was lynched, as a threat.
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See it for what it is. idiots being idiots. They deserved the consequences.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:49 AM
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Vandalism is a crime. One could also interpret those white boys holding riffles, by the memorial that marks the site where a young black boy was lynched, as a threat.
Not what these students did as a legal matter. Now, it would be different if the boys did something like take a photo of what they were doing and then sent them to the NAACP. That could more reasonably be considered a threat, but even then its not so clear.
 
Old 07-27-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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If they get kicked out of ol miss. That is thier problem.
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