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Old 07-28-2019, 04:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
These guys will never be able to creep so far into White Southern society as to never come into contact with a Black or White person who is not repulsed by that picture. They will even be shunned by White people who share their sentiment but for political, social or business reasons are not so dumb as to broadcast that sentiment to the world for all eternity.
"to never come into contact with a Black or White person who is not repulsed by that picture."

And who gave you permission to speak for EVERYBODY?
Your allusions of grander are greatly exaggerated!

 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:00 AM
 
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Sorry, you are naive. Many many white people are fine with that picture. MILLIONS of them.

Again, simply look at the last couple of weeks. The first and most powerful leader of the KKK was given honors and a special day by the White Governor of TN. Many on this board defend those moves.....

Maybe we can find some TN polling eventually to show you and others the real story. I lived there for three years and can promise you that many of the Republicans would glorify Forrest AND these fellas.

You are looking at the world through your own eyes and thinking it is Roses.

"Jul 12, 2019 - Gov. Bill Lee has proclaimed Saturday as Nathan Bedford Forrest Day in Tennessee, a day of observation to honor the former Confederate ..."

VAST numbers of people honor the guy....today! I'd guess in the state of TN that 40% of the Population approves of the "Day" honoring him.

You can't possibly think that somehow correlates with "no white person wouldn't be repulsed". What Nathan did (murder, castrations, dynamiting families, etc) is the Real Thing and kids as shown are part of the millions who support that history and think Nathan was a Great Man.
The left "honored" robert KKK byrd his entire life. In his later years he changed his view, so did Strom Thumond but, that didn't stop the left from demeaning him when he retired from the Senate and he was one of the FIRST senators to have black person on his staff.


It cost another repub Senator, Trent Lott, the Senate Majority Leader position because he DARED have a retirement party for Strom.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:03 AM
 
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You must be someone who wrongly believes Freedom of speech means freedom from consequences.
Tell that to the left especially the Lame Stream Media.

And as I asked before, has ANYTHING happened to the people who toppled all those statues?

I'm just pointing the double standard.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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You can’t equate the old Democrats with what they are today. That’s not a fair play. Same for dredging up old republican crap.

The left legitimately belonged to the republicans in their infancy. They pushed against an entrenched institution, slavery. There’s nothing “conservative” about that, nor is there anything “liberal” about the contemporary democrats fighting against it.

Fücksake, get your terms and histories in order.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If it's material left on unprivatized land it's simply waste (the monument).

No natural rights have been violated that I can see.
I doubt anyone is going to investigate this further but regardless it is despicable behavior by these students. They aren't alone in their thoughts there are plenty of others in that area who feel that posing like this and minimizing Till's murder and torture is some sort of sport.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:40 AM
 
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No, hate speech is free speech. The First Amendment is essentially there to protect against government efforts to regulate "hate speech" or similarly disfavored speech. If hate speech was exempted from First Amendment protection, the Westboro Baptist Church would have lost their case before the Supreme Court.
It's well worth taking the time to read the lone dissenting opinion in SNYDER v. PHELPS ET AL.:

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JUSTICE ALITO, dissenting.

Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case.

...

In order to have a society in which public issues can be openly and vigorously debated, it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-751.pdf
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:53 AM
 
Location: sumter
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It's Mississippi, doesn't surprise me at all. Just another day in the life of Trump's America. With his many dog whistles, that the racist people out there can hear loud and clear, they are emboldened to come out now. Trump have made them feel it's ok to be racist and hateful. The aftermath is going to be a very damaged and torn country, even more so than it already is, and you can thanks the divider in chief, this is what he want. If a reporter ask him about it, he will defend these young men, and find nothing wrong, then attack the reporter saying fake news.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 05:58 AM
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Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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It's well worth taking the time to read the lone dissenting opinion in SNYDER v. PHELPS ET AL.:



https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-751.pdf
Justice Alito's dissent was heartfelt and moving, but there is a reason why it is, as you note, the lone dissent. The Snyder v. Phelps case was decided 8-1, which meant that it united both conservatives and liberals on the Court to hold, in essence, that hate speech is fully protected as free speech under the First Amendment.

As much respect that I have for Justice Alito, if his position was to be adopted, I fear we'd be going down a slippery slope that would lead to the stifling of speech that we don't happen to like.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 06:02 AM
 
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There is free speech. And there is hate speech. It is sad if you do not know the difference.
There is also celebrating, memorializing, justifying, & normalizing hate speech.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 06:12 AM
 
Location: sumter
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Pictures like this just further divides the country, and give credence to who makes up the republican party. Of course racist people won't find anything wrong with this picture, they will find justification for it. This picture is in very poor taste with no regards to Mr.Till family members who will see this. Till died a horrible death at the hands of a bunch of racist people, there was no justice for that young man.
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