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Old Yesterday, 11:55 PM
 
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What difference does it make? He is a US citizen due to his Mother being a US citizen. I am no fan of Obama, but this is a dead issue. Talk about beating a dead horse.

There are many valid things to attack Obama on. His record of class warfare. His my way or the highway approach to leadership. His Chicago style gutter politics.
There are many valid things.

His citizenship or where he was born? Leave that dead horse alone.
Nope.

He is a U.S. citizen because due to having been born in Hawaii. If he had been born on the same day to the same parents, but in another country, his mother wasn't old enough to confer citizenship upon him (see both Wrecking Ball's and my earlier posts in this thread re this).

 
Old Yesterday, 11:59 PM
 
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"citizen at birth" is currently the overwhelming legal consensus but...... since neither the US constitution or the SCOTUS has specifically defined NBC it's still debateable. ironically trump had standing to challenge cruz's eligibility, which would have forced the SCOTUS to side on a definition, but..... he didn't.
^^^^^ This.
 
Old Today, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Is it a way to escape prosecution in the US?


Please explain why do you care so much about where Obama was born? I ask because he won his first election as president in 2008 and was reelected in 2012. Also are you ignorant of the fact that President Trump is no longer concerned where Obama was born?
 
Old Today, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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i dont believe he was born in kenya but i wonder what would happen if he was
I looked it up years ago when ('09) this first came up ... treason and it is still on the books with a very high penalty rate, if it was ever discovered it would end bad.

But this is like who shot JFK ... a conspiracy that will never die, with everyone believing they have found the smoking gun.
 
Old Today, 06:26 AM
 
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He got a passport at very young age. A passport requires a birth certificate and other proof. If there is a conspiracy to hide where he was born it started at a very young age, which is unlikely.

He is an American.
 
Old Today, 06:28 AM
 
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Is it a way to escape prosecution in the US?




Obama said it all the time before becoming a POTUS candidate. He said so in this Illinois election campaign and was a "foreign student" while in college.


Obama was the "Manchurian Candidate" POTUS. Perhaps in the future, all of his very odd, conflicting, and secretive past will be revealed.


Obama did one thing for sure- future candidates will be better vetted.
 
Old Today, 07:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A new conspiracy? I would have thought that would have stopped as he is no longer President.
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I doubt it. Since Trump didn't even know where Obama was born.



Why only the lady that dealt with Obama's birth certificate fraud, died?
This plane crash was very low impact.
Watch the video of the plane going down in the ocean.
 
Old Today, 07:18 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Do you doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii ?
It has not been proved he was.


https://www.intellihub.com/obamas-bi...roven-forgery/


Scientific Evidence: Obama Birth Certificate Copy Proven Fake And Forged – The Millennium Report


OBAMA'S KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOUND IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES


https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-e...h-certificate/
 
Old Today, 07:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaios investigators had discovered bombshell evidence that the CIA and or other government entities illegally hacked into Hawaii Department of Health records searching for birth records on Barack Obama.According to information received by the investigators, the government breaches began on Nov. 14, 2008, just after Obama won his first presidential election, and continued until Jan. 12, 2011, three months before the White House released a computer version of what President Obama claimed was his authentic Long-Form Birth Certificate from 1961.


Represented by well-known conservative attorney Larry Klayman, Montgomery ultimately turned over to the FBI 47 hard drives including information he supplied to Zullo concerning Obamas fraudulent birth certificate and highly classified information he had removed from the NSA.
As reported by Circa on June 6, 2017, Montgomery divulged to the FBI a pattern and practice of conducting illegal, unconstitutional surveillance against millions of Americans, including prominent Americans such as the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen, and others such as Donald J. Trump, as well as Plaintiffs themselves.



https://www.jerome-corsi/
 
Old Today, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Is it a way to escape prosecution in the US?


Swell doctored video.

$ billions were spent trying to beat Obama, twice.

At least one guy, Sheldon Adelson, donated $100 million to PACs that fund opposition research and most importantly produce fake news.

Trump chose to become the celebrity face of the Birther movement. In 2016, Trump chose to end it and announced Obama was born in the US.

Putting the Obama Birther thing into perspective:

Birthers seem to believe Obama’s parents somehow managed to pay for and embark on an 11,000 mile trip with multiple connecting flights to Kenya and then return.

Kenya was in the middle of a civil war in 1961.

Marriage and relations between black and white people was a crime in Kenya in 1961.

As an aside,Kenya was and remains a super Christian majority country.

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