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Old 07-31-2019, 12:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by green_mariner View Post
At least we are getting the conversation to a better level. Whether or not Trump's statement was a racist statement or if it was true, that's being argued to death. It completely misses the point. One thing that hasn't been asked much is whether or not it was a divisive statement. It's one think if a local resident or an individual visiting, that is one thing. It isn't being made in the arena of politics. It's not being done in divisiveness.
Leftist talking point nonsense !!! Yeah lets drop the racism and go with racism light = divisive !!!

Anytime a conservative points out a shortcoming of a democrat its divisive !!!

Trump was/is an outsider !!! Elected, and the entire USA is his district !!! He spotlights the blight in Baltimore !!! Dems want investigations !!! OK, Trumps says lets investigate the investigators !!! Lets see what corruption they're hiding in their districts !!! Pointing out corruption is now divisive !!! That's nonsense !!!

Cummings is an outsider on border issues !!! He doesn't live on the border !!! He didn't even bother to visit it when invited !!! Ran his stupid mouth about a situation he never saw and there is no evidence it took place !!! Where, when did it happen !!! No one knows and no one is even asking, and they don't know if it happen at all !!! No evidence was ever presented !!! Cummings BS is divisive !!!
Cummings knows Trump supports BP & ICE !!! He decides to show Trump he has power and demeans the BP head in a totally unnecessary false rant !!! He abused his authority taking a poke at Trump !!! That's divisive !!!


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President Trump, on the other hand, is President of the United States of America. That includes the city of Baltimore. When he made that statement, it was basically like a middle finger to the persons living in Baltimore. If a President is to unite this country, that is not the way to go about it. He was basically engaging in an argument with Cummings and hit below the belt. President Trump did not need to say that. It was neither the time or the place. And this is why these questions have to be asked:
In bold above: Thats nothing but an opinion and plenty of people in Baltimore don't share it and the rest below the boldis just more nonsense opinion !!!

Oil and water don't mix !!! The Dems and GOP are not going to be united on most issues !!!

The Dems don't have some magic card on morality or unity !!! They talk like electing a democrat will bring unity !!! BS The people who don't support democrat policies are not going to be united with them !!! Its a pipe dream !!!




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Were President Trump's comments necessary? Yes or No?

What did Trump's comments have to do with the border wall situation?

What is the supposed effect of calling Baltimore a dump?
1) Yes, and long over do !!! Now that the Mueller witch hunt is over Trump can fight back against the democrats corruption and do the job he was elected to do !!! Cummings is a swamp creature

2) What did Cummings BS have to do with the border wall situation ? Nothing, he was posing for the cameras !!! There are kids in dirty diapers all over the country !!! Is Cummings helping out changing diapers in Baltimore's !!! No

3) We don't know yet !!! Its not over !!! Maybe Cummings will investigate and see why the blighted areas of Baltimore aren't getting any help all the while he has become a millionaire !!!

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Old 07-31-2019, 03:07 AM
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Leftist talking point nonsense !!! Yeah lets drop the racism and go with racism light = divisive !!!

Anytime a conservative points out a shortcoming of a democrat its divisive !!!

Trump was/is an outsider !!! Elected, and the entire USA is his district !!! He spotlights the blight in Baltimore !!! Dems want investigations !!! OK, Trumps says lets investigate the investigators !!! Lets see what corruption they're hiding in their districts !!! Pointing out corruption is now divisive !!! That's nonsense !!!

Cummings is an outsider on border issues !!! He doesn't live on the border !!! He didn't even bother to visit it when invited !!! Ran his stupid mouth about a situation he never saw and there is no evidence it took place !!! Where, when did it happen !!! No one knows and no one is even asking, and they don't know if it happen at all !!! No evidence was ever presented !!! Cummings BS is divisive !!!
Cummings knows Trump supports BP & ICE !!! He decides to show Trump he has power and demeans the BP head in a totally unnecessary false rant !!! He abused his authority taking a poke at Trump !!! That's divisive !!!




In bold above: Thats nothing but an opinion and plenty of people in Baltimore don't share it and the rest below the boldis just more nonsense opinion !!!

Oil and water don't mix !!! The Dems and GOP are not going to be united on most issues !!!

The Dems don't have some magic card on morality or unity !!! They talk like electing a democrat will bring unity !!! BS The people who don't support democrat policies are not going to be united with them !!! Its a pipe dream !!!






1) Yes, and long over do !!! Now that the Mueller witch hunt is over Trump can fight back against the democrats corruption and do the job he was elected to do !!! Cummings is a swamp creature

2) What did Cummings BS have to do with the border wall situation ? Nothing, he was posing for the cameras !!! There are kids in dirty diapers all over the country !!! Is Cummings helping out changing diapers in Baltimore's !!! No

3) We don't know yet !!! Its not over !!! Maybe Cummings will investigate and see why the blighted areas of Baltimore aren't getting any help all the while he has become a millionaire !!!
He would interrupt the flow of money into his pocket. Dems won't be happy until all cities are exclusively electing Democrats and look just like Baltimore
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:57 AM
 
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So what.

My point is that he has more intellectual horsepower than Trump. If he doesn't already understand Trump's finances better than Trump does, he could have a government paid expert explain them to him, and he'd understand them. If Trump can grasp his own finances, Cummings would be able to do so.
"My point is that he has more intellectual horsepower than Trump."


Thank you for your very biased opinon based on ZERO facts!
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:01 AM
 
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What is wrong with taking shots at Cummings. He deserves it. Also why does he need to tip toe around an issue? Sure he could soften his words. I am sure you feel that is the best approach. As a supporter I applaud his honesty!
" Sure he could soften his words."


Why, cummings certainly did NOT "soften" his words when he went on his screaming, hollering tirade as CHAIRMAN of Congressional committee repeating LIES about the conditions at the detention centers.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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i've had the unfortunate opportunity to drive through Baltimore and its not all black. there is actually a white section. The left uses the race card so much that the word "racism" has lost its true meaning. I find it especially interesting that more white people today call each other racist than ever before.

Also, lets not forget, facts are racist to the liberal left.






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It seems very odd that the left immediately calls Trump a "racist" for saying Baltimore is a dump. It is- have any of you been there? How is calling a place that is a dump "racist"? Can one no longer speak the truth in the eyes of modern day leftists? If you don't acknowledge a fact, can a problem ever be solved?

Is calling parts of Appalachia a dump "racist" as well? The Blue Ridge Mountains are beautiful, but many parts of Appalachia are dumps- trust me- we hike there all the time. The North Carolina area can actually be pretty wealthy, but far eastern TN, far western VA and WV can be pretty dumpy. Racist?

MANY of these congressmen go on the attack and are so focuses on partisan political issues, that they neglect their own districts and what can be done for them.

Instead of wanting open borders and freebies for illegals, why don't Cummings and AOC focus on helping their districts, which obviously need a lot of help. Are they neglecting their duties as Congressmen?
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:07 AM
 
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My question is, why are people suddenly saying "Baltimore is beautiful and peaceful and lovely" just because Trump mentioned it?

It's this logic that I don't understand from people. Trump can condemn a brand of cereal and people will suddenly act like it's the best cereal ever and start buying it like crazy just because Trump condemned it.
"My question is, why are people suddenly saying "Baltimore is beautiful and peaceful and lovely" just because Trump mentioned it?"

Because it gives them the opportunity to play the race card, AGAIN, as they ALWAYS do every time a white person DARE to criticize a black person.

W could do the same on here. "EVERY black person who criticizes any white person in IS A RACIST!"

But, we DON'T do that. Only the dems do.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:10 AM
 
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Is it okay for a US President to say that about a US city?

Nope.

Baltimore has problems, no doubt about it. But, is he thoughtful in his approach to bringing this up and does he care?

Nah... he is just out to take shots at Cummings.


He doesn't give a damn about Baltimore or Baltimore's residents. Just about attacking Cummings.
"Nah... he is just out to take shots at Cummings.?


As happens evry time someone criticizes Trump, Trump FIRES BACK! and they can't take it!
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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THe bottom line here is that Trump is trying to lash out at a critic in a juvenile manner, not actually help the situation.

The people of Baltimore, of course react as anyone would.

Now for the ironic part. Their politicians were doing exactly what Trump did.

Lashing out at a political opponent in order to distract from scrutiny of his own problems.
The voters of Baltimore however have no choice, they live in a mono-party oligarchy and are too entrenched to change.
So, they keep blaming all their problems on everyone and everything else.....just like Trump.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:12 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I was last in Baltimore in April 2010, to visit Harborside. Suffice to say that I passed up free street parking to use an expensive commercial garage. That's the truth, not racism.
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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"My question is, why are people suddenly saying "Baltimore is beautiful and peaceful and lovely" just because Trump mentioned it?"

Because it gives them the opportunity to play the race card, AGAIN, as they ALWAYS do every time a white person DARE to criticize a black person.

W could do the same on here. "EVERY black person who criticizes any white person in IS A RACIST!"

But, we DON'T do that. Only the dems do.
That's because LOSER Democrats take every opportunity to try and make the President look BAD. If he said it was beautiful, they would be outraged and say it's a rat-filled cesspool. But because he said it's a rat-filled DUMP, they are ganging up like gangbusters.

The ONLY racist here is Cummings! They need to understand that. And if it's so beautiful there (the poverty stricken areas) then let the Dems move there!
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