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Old 08-02-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Trump calls them out...they scream racist

...and the louder they scream....the more they prove Trump right

Baltimore has gotten $billions in aid.....Trump calling them on it....maybe they will actually do something about it now
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Has anyone stated trump is correct?
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Has anyone stated trump is correct?

Cummings confirmed there was a drug problem years ago... he hasnt been called racist for it, yet.





However to any logical person Cummings confirmed Trump as to being correct about certain parts of the city....probably not the area where the Babe Ruth museum is, though.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Rep. Elijah Cummings’ Baltimore Home Burglarized, Police Say

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/...ummings-house/



Oops.
karma.

BTW, why isn't anyone asking where the $18B they sent Baltimore went?
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:39 AM
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A lot of you have less than zero clue how Maryland plantation politics works.

Several have asked what Cummings has to do with trash/rats in his District. The answer for normal people is "Nothing". That's normal people. In this state having a Congressman get involved in a purely local manner is standard because the residents call or write a letter.

A number of years ago a newspaper vendor got rid of his load on a somewhat isolated town owned beach. A resident was walking her dog on the beach and saw the newspapers (about 300 bundles, so 6000 individual copies). Did that resident call Town Hall? Oh **** no, the phone call went to a County Commissioner and, for good measure, Congressman Steny Hoyer.

This happens constantly. The cable goes out and Sen. Cardin gets called. Trash pick up is late, call the State Senator. You don't like a new crosswalk you write a letter to the President.

That's Maryland politics. The local Delegates and State Senators go to every high school graduation and give a speech.
ahhh... now I get it, when someone from up north says.... "we don't do it that way up north".

Thanks for that.... now webster's dictionary of Forrest Gump-ism, of stupid is what stupid does, can use it in a sentence.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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What did Trump say about people of color? Did he mention brown and black people?
The President of the United States is using a more blunt and overt strategy of xenophobia and racism in this campaign than in 2016. It truly is disheartening to have the leader of our United States use taunts and slurs and his own bigotry to stir his followers and to divide the nation he has sworn to protect and preserve. He is doing it, even as we read this thread, as he continues to assault Baltimore.

Yes, he does target black and brown people and he uses language that cannot be mistaken. Baltimore is just the latest in a long list. He is doing nothing constructive, rather he seeks to divide and wound as he looks for another term and hunts for votes.

Donald Trump, the man who desires to lead us for another 4 years has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in the 1970s and ‘80s. More recently, his political rise was built on promulgating the lie that the nation’s first black president was born in Kenya.

In the 1970s, per the Federal government, Trump tried to avoid renting apartments to African Americans.

Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from the white employees per multiple hotel and casino executives. To one, Trump said, "“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he defiantly argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

He began his 2016 campaign by disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.

He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.

In December 2017, "Donald J. Trump calls for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.

Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge's Mexican heritage.

In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never "go back to their huts,” in Africa.

At the White House, in a cabinet meeting, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.

Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”

He spent years and myriad tweets suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.

Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”

He often casts heavily black American cities as war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

He frequently offers false crime statistics ( at rallies and in numerous and frequent tweets) to exaggerate urban crime, about Oakland, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Ferguson, etc.

He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating and lying about them ( such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people.

He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful. Citizens whose U.S. roots go back deeper and longer than his very own at times. He has tweeted such, as well as calling them minorities that are uppity and ungrateful.

He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”

He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.

After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.

Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

Trump pardoned and sung the praises of Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.

In the 1990s, Trump took out newspaper ads alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business.

Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. He has also been reluctant to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on journalists from his supporters, and he echoed neo-Nazi conspiracy theories by saying that Hillary Clinton “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors.”

Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”

At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

He verbally assaulted and vilified civil rights icon and current congressman John Lewis, an African American on more than one occasion.

Most recently he singled out 4 freshman Democratic congresswomen of color and differing ethnicities to demean and denigrate with racial slurs and xenophobic taunts. He did not try to stop or mend the divide he created with his abhorrent tweets and language and innuendos. Rather, he kept at it to reveal that he is using an even more blunt and overt racism as a campaign strategy than he utilized in 2016.

Currently he is involved in a direct and ongoing attack on another respected congressman of color, Rep. Elijah Cummings. He is deliberately attacking and wounding an American city and its myriad black citizens (Cummings' constituents) with racially charged words and ugly phrasing. Belittling, defaming and criticizing Americans and their homes with words and phrasing such as "rats and infestation and vermin" is disgusting and the President of the United States of America is revealing his unabashed racism. Yes he is using Baltimore and it is about the colors brown and black.

And there are many more examples, but how many does one need to understand? When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

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Old 08-02-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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The President of the United States is using a more blunt and overt strategy of xenophobia and racism in this campaign than in 2016. It truly is disheartening to have the leader of our United States use taunts and slurs and his own bigotry to stir his followers and to divide the nation he has sworn to protect and preserve. He is doing it as we read this thread as he continues to assault Baltimore.

Yes he does target black and brown people and he uses language that cannot be mistaken. Baltimore is just the latest in a long list. He is doing nothing constructive, rather he seeks to divide and wound as he seeks another term.

Donald Trump, the man who seeks to lead us for another 4 years has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in the 1970s and ‘80s. More recently, his political rise was built on promulgating the lie that the nation’s first black president was born in Kenya. He then launched his campaign with a speech describing Mexicans as rapists.

In the 1970s , per the Federal government, Trump tried to avoid renting apartments to African Americans.

Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from the white employees per multiple hotel and casino executives. To one, Trump said, "“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he defiantly argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

He began his 2016 campaign by disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.

He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.

In December 2017, "Donald J. Trump calls for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.

Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge's Mexican heritage.

In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never "go back to their huts,” in Africa.

At the White House, in a cabinet meeting, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.

Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”

He spent years and myriad tweets suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.

Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”

He often casts heavily black American cities as war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

He frequently offers false crime statistics ( at rallies and in numerous and frequent tweets) to exaggerate urban crime, about Oakland, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Ferguson, etc.

He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating and lying about them ( such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people.

He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful. Citizens whose U.S. roots go back deeper and longer than his very own at times. He has tweeted such, as well as calling them minorities that are uppity and ungrateful.

He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”

He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.

After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.

Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

Trump pardoned and sung the praises of Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.

In the 1990s, Trump took out newspaper ads alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business.

Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. He has also been reluctant to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on journalists from his supporters, and he echoed neo-Nazi conspiracy theories by saying that Hillary Clinton “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors.”

Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”

At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

He verbally assaulted and vilified civil rights icon and current congressman John Lewis, an African American on more than one occasion.

Most recently he singled out 4 freshman Democratic congresswomen of color and differing ethnicities to demean and denigrate with racial slurs and xenophobic taunts. He did not try to stop or mend the divide he created with his abhorrent tweets and language and innuendos. Rather, he kept at it to reveal that he is using an even more blunt and overt racism as a campaign strategy than he utilized in 2016.

Currently he is involved in a direct and ongoing attack on another respected congressman of color, Rep. Elijah Cummings. He is deliberately attacking and wounding an American city and its myriad black citizens( Cummings' constituents)with racially charged words and ugly phrasing. Belittling, defaming and criticizing Americans and their homes with words and phrasing such as "rats and infestation and vermin" is disgusting and the President of the United States of America is revealing his unabashed racism. Yes he is using Baltimore and it is about the colors brown and black.

And there are many more examples, but how many does one need to understand? When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

No a single link.....and, no I'm not going to look them up....
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:21 PM
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On the other hand, this shoudn't be about whether or not it was a racist statement or a factual statement. Very few people have thought to ask this question: Was it necessary to say such a thing?

President Trump has made many stupid comments. This comment hit below the belt. His comment was stupid, and more importantly, unbecoming of a U.S. President. What U.S. President disparages a city in his own country? What I'm saying is this. I expect better from the President than that.
YES!!!! It was absolutely necessary to say this. And IMO it should have been said by Obama eight years ago. After all, Obama's Father's Day speech chastised black men for not being good fathers to their children... and he wasn't accused of being racist about those comments.

Positive changes can't happen in this country without true honesty. And IMO Trump shouldn't be the one to fix Baltimore, instead it should be the black politicians and the black community to be the ones making the decisions on how best to fix that city and others like Detroit. Otherwise, there will be an outcry against WHITE people trying to fix black Baltimore neighborhoods, and we all know how that will turn out.

BTW this is why I want DACAs to sign up for the Peace Corps and return to their home countries for 3-5 years before trying to return to the US. And at the end of their stays, I would like them to tell America how best to fix their countries. Any other way, and America gets hated on for not understanding their culture and their ways. And America should not be taking away their best and their brightest young nationals.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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Lots of things come across as "unnecessary", its politics.
Mr Cummings said it was a drug infested city years ago... unless one thinks his comment was also "not necessary" then you are a hypocrite.. The fact that Mr Cummings was not the President is not a fair defense for his statement. Each are elected officials.








SF has poop everywhere, The reps have the responsibility for their districts..after all thats why they are where they are. shouldn't their primary responsibility be to their district rather than attacking the President.




The squad has attacked and talked crap about tthe President on many occasions, he punches back and they go do a vote to condemn his statements(when they themselves were the ones that actually said something involving race) instead of doing something useful like working on immigration reform Was that necessary? It kind of was for them since Mueller time failed..they have to keep the negativity campaign and character assassination thing going against Trump going.
Except this conversation had nothing to do with Baltimore. Trump brought up Baltimore to hit below the belt. Baltimore has issues, and not, I don't think Cummings should talk down on his city. However, that isn't the point. This conversation had nothing to do with Baltimore. It was about the border wall. Not only was it not necessary, it was stupid. This is not about a representative's responsibilty. This is about Trump hitting below the belt. What part of that do you not understand?
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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YES!!!! It was absolutely necessary to say this. And IMO it should have been said by Obama eight years ago. After all, Obama's Father's Day speech chastised black men for not being good fathers to their children... and he wasn't accused of being racist about those comments.

Positive changes can't happen in this country without true honesty. And IMO Trump shouldn't be the one to fix Baltimore, instead it should be the black politicians and the black community to be the ones making the decisions on how best to fix that city and others like Detroit. Otherwise, there will be an outcry against WHITE people trying to fix black Baltimore neighborhoods, and we all know how that will turn out.

BTW this is why I want DACAs to sign up for the Peace Corps and return to their home countries for 3-5 years before trying to return to the US. And at the end of their stays, I would like them to tell America how best to fix their countries. Any other way, and America gets hated on for not understanding their culture and their ways. And America should not be taking away their best and their brightest young nationals.
Here is my rebuttal. Baltimore has alot of problems. However, Trump didn't say any of that to help Baltimore or because he cares about Baltimore. He said it because he didn't like what Elijah Cummings had to say. Trump hit below the belt. The conversation started as a disagreement about building the border wall. If Trump doesn't really care about Baltimore or other inner city areas at all. He just wanted to hit Cummings where it hurt. It wasn't necessary. Baltimore has alot of problems that need to be solved. However, Baltimore had absolutely nothing to do with what that discussion was about. There are alot of problems in Baltimore that need to be talked about. But that was not the time or the place. It was only brought up as a way to hit Cummings below the belt. It was simply Trump being the petulant bully that he is. By the way, Detroit has a White mayor now. There are still alot of problems.

When President Obama was critical towards Black men, he wasn't critical towards Black women. He knows if that happens, all heck will break loose. If former President Obama couldn't get members of the underclass/hood rat subculture within the Black population to do better, no one can. What President Obama said had alot more to do with him wanting to help, wanting to encourage people. President Trump is known for being antagonistic. He didn't say what he said because he cared about Baltimore. This had nothing to do with the problems in the inner city. It was about Elijah Cummings and Trump having a problem with him.

And something else. Given the racial tensions this country has always had, and the problems we still have, there won't be much trust for anyone.

The comments were not necessary because it wasn't the time or the place for it.
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