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Old 07-31-2019, 09:55 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The most important point made is that the lack of cultural assimilation will hurt America. Citizens from the Middle East do not assimilate well into American culture. Hispanics do, unless circumstances force them to live in enclaves - circumstances like being illegal, not speaking English, and being largely unemployable are the ones that come to mind.
We should keep those people out until we can regulate their entry into the job market. Then we should allow the ones in that we want in.
Thatís just patently false. We live in a highly diverse area with many people originally from the Middle East. They speak English. Many are college educated. And they work in all kinds of jobs. Youíre creating stereotypes.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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MANY parts of the southwest were stolen from Mexico and those places were populated with Spanish speaking Mexicans when the Mayflower arrived.
They were not stolen! The U.S. paid Mexico $15 million for those territories and forgave them many debts. We didn't even need to do that since we fought a war with them and they lost.

Are you joking? There we no Spanish speaking Mexicans here when the Mayflower arrived. There were Amerindians and they spoke their Indian languages none of which was Spanish. Mexico didn't even exist until the mid 1800's. You really need to bone up on history as your claims are not only false but ridiculous.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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So you blame the "slave" (illegal) instead of the "slave owner (American businessmen) for that?

Oh and since when are "landscaping" jobs "good paying?
No, I have often said that both the greedy employers and their cheap illegal slaves are equally guilty of breaking the law. Certainly you haven't missed those posts? They both need to be held accountable. There is no innocent party here.

Commercial landscaping jobs use to pay a fair and liveable wage. What, you have nothing to say about the once good paying construction jobs that illegals have also flooded by working for less making the rich, richer? Figures.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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MANY of the parts of the southwest already look like South-America.
Yes, nothing EARTH shattering about what prof said. Natural migration has occurred in the continent. Unless something drastic occurs in immigration allowances, Hispanics will be a huge segment if not majority.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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Yes, nothing EARTH shattering about what prof said. Natural migration has occurred in the continent. Unless something drastic occurs in immigration allowances, Hispanics will be a huge segment if not majority.
Illegal immigration isn't "natural" migration and it's also unlawful. That is the only way that Hispanics will become the majority in the U.S. and it's unacceptable and it's an invasion.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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This being an election cycle already, we will have no end to stupid statements, media vulturism, crazy and obnoxious reactions, false victimhood, with sappy or ridiculous apologies, and then the whole thing is repeated over and over. Having been to South America, it seems to me that they are trying to be like us -- we will likely meet in the middle somewhere eventually. The popular US perception of South America is based on stupidity and possibly a bit of racism. The US needs to recognize that we will always have immigrants wanting to come here beyond the artificial limits and restraints we have imposed. Some want to stay, some just want to work and go back, and some are escaping as actual refugees. We need three ways to properly handle those three groups that do not create a crisis at the border. Cross-border smuggling of drugs or guns or whatever is not an immigration issue. We need to also seriously address the folks who conveniently forget about their visa requirements.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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"Go back home" is not racist just because it hurts some people's feelings. And therein lies the problem. Every time someone calls someone racist because their feelings got hurt, the word loses it's meaning. Would it be racist if I told a Canadian to go back home?

I do think some immigrants should consider going back home. Mainly the ones that just came here to whine and complain. We have a surplus of whiners and complainers as it is. We also have way too many immigrants that come here and end up on welfare and such. Again, we have enough natural born citizens to care for. Our government has not done a very good job of regulating immigration, and I think that should appear obvious to most.
That phrase is most often uttered at people who aren't white - even if they're native born and otherwise fully assimilated. It's often even thrown at African Americans (go back to Africa) even though most of them have been native to the continent for many hundreds of years. It implies that the default American is white and everyone else has to bend over backwards to prove their American ness.

I'm a native born Asian American and I've been told lots of times to "go back to [Asian country]".

I shouldn't have to and don't have to prove that I'm just as American as anyone else.

I'm not going anywhere. Take those ignorant, ethnocentric, xenophobic sentiments and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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Old Today, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Parts of Los Angeles are already there.
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Old Today, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Whenever you see pictures of populations in South American countries, they look overwhelmingly mestizo.

Funny how that is.
Racial mixing was more extensive in Latin America compared to the North.

Even most "whites" in Latin America have something like 10-15% black or indigenous admixture.
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