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Old 07-29-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
No, not one, but many....Every time the shooter was described...White male, 25 to 35, wearing green vest, grey kerchief around neck, shorts and a ball cap...How did you miss that?
How did Fox News describe the shooter?

 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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Therefore, your premise is to make firearms easily available to these criminals and lunatics.

We have met the enemy, and they are us so we provide them with lethal weapons.
Criminals circumvent the law to get the tools they need to commit crimes. We already have 22,000 gun laws on the books which are mostly infringements on the Second Amendment because brain dead, sociopath, socialists want to overly control the law abiding populace. More laws won't stop criminals from getting guns, bombs, gasoline, knives, nor any other tools to commit crime.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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Therefore, your premise is to make firearms easily available to these criminals and lunatics.

We have met the enemy, and they are us so we provide them with lethal weapons.
Criminals and lunatics will get guns no matter what you do. Gun laws only prevent the law abiding from protecting themselves.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:52 AM
Status: "This is the best of all possible plutocracies." (set 10 days ago)
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
Criminals and lunatics will get guns no matter what you do. Gun laws only prevent the law abiding from protecting themselves.
And with such a huge reservoir of weapons in circulation, it is easy for them to do this. So let's make sure that the reservoir keeps getting larger.

Makes sense.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
No, not one, but many....Every time the shooter was described...White male, 25 to 35, wearing green vest, grey kerchief around neck, shorts and a ball cap...How did you miss that?


Turns out he was 19, not 25-35.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by katygirl68 View Post
That’s because we live in reality. Getting rid of guns in a country with more guns than people and a large black market is impossible.
The one thing a shooter does not want to hear..... Return fire.
If everyone was armed, would a deranged individual think twice?
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:55 AM
 
Location: USA
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The one thing a shooter does not want to hear..... Return fire.
If everyone was armed, would a deranged individual think twice?
When confronted with armed resistance whether it be police, or a private citizen these shooters typically shoot themselves, or die by suicide by cop. Bottom line it is a good guy WITH A GUN that stops them.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
Smithee said the shooter used some type of tool to cut through a fence to get into the festival, avoiding the metal detectors and other security.


1- Metal detectors and security needed for a garlic festival

2- It still wasn't enough. Ultimately it's a people problem. People bent on doing harm to others will find a way to do it.
Yep, that is what life has been reduced to in the "shining city on the hill." We must have metal detectors and high security now even at small town festivals.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Irony the fact is gun free zones kill! We’re all unarmed to protect ourselves!
This was not a gun-free zone and five people were shot to death and two injured yesterday.

Update: Shooting in Lake Hallie leaves 5 dead, 2 injured
 
Old 07-29-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Irony the fact is gun free zones kill! We’re all unarmed to protect ourselves!
Gun free zones work well on airplanes
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