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Old Today, 01:24 PM
 
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The ACA was a failure.

Additionally, it allowed the government to force people to buy something from a list of private companies selected by government officials. How unAmerican is that.
Waiting on the great plan Trump said he would replace it with.
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Old Today, 01:27 PM
 
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Companies dropped coverage because the insurance companies were going out of business. Does that ring any bells? Some had no choice but to sign up for the ACA
I'm a company owner. We did not drop coverage. ACA actually stopped the rampant year to year health insurance increases for group insurance. If your company dropped employee coverage it was not because of the ACA. In fact, this is more likely since Trump took office and began crippling the ACA. Prices for group insurance has dramatically risen.
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Old Today, 01:28 PM
 
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Drug prices? Just another Trump lie.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-pr...mes-inflation/

The economy is doing awesome??? Sure if you're in the top 10%. For the rest of Americans inflation is killing families and incomes are going south. Most of good American manufacturing jobs are gone.
Just as Trump promises they were replaced, yes, but with what, low paying, no benefit service jobs.
i.e., Walmart gave all their employees a raise and then cut their hour to 28hrs a week ending any healthcare they might have had. Not to worry, they now qualify for Medicaid and I have no doubt that you don't mind your tax dollar going to pay for what the billion dollar corporation do not. Good for you.

This is the truth of Trump's promises:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZD_xyAjC-E
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Old Today, 02:39 PM
 
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And how is that my problem? That means you rely on those who can pay.
I didn't say it was your problem at all. I was talking about my life circumstance and the facts before I had Obamacare.

I have paid property taxes for schools for over 40 years and never had a child. I never begrudged paying it. It's what we do as a society.
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Old Today, 03:44 PM
 
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I'm a company owner. We did not drop coverage. ACA actually stopped the rampant year to year health insurance increases for group insurance. If your company dropped employee coverage it was not because of the ACA. In fact, this is more likely since Trump took office and began crippling the ACA. Prices for group insurance has dramatically risen.
You must be a very small private owned company. The company I work for and many other people I know that work for other large companies are a huge nationwide operations. When the mandatory ACA scam rolled out, I, along with many of the people I am friends with in these other large companies, had to sign up for the ACA because the companies we work for dropped the health insurance providers. Many health insurance providers also went out of business.

How much do politicians, like Obama and Pelosi, have to pay for health insurance? Oh, yeah, they don't, the tax payers pay for their coverage, it's their political benefits package. On the exact same lines as gun control. All these politicians who want them banned from the general public, all have armed security and/or have a conceal carry permit of their own so they never have to worry about actually defending themselves. Same thing, different argument.
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Old Today, 04:07 PM
 
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You must be a very small private owned company. The company I work for and many other people I know that work for other large companies are a huge nationwide operations. When the mandatory ACA scam rolled out, I, along with many of the people I am friends with in these other large companies, had to sign up for the ACA because the companies we work for dropped the health insurance providers. Many health insurance providers also went out of business.

How much do politicians, like Obama and Pelosi, have to pay for health insurance? Oh, yeah, they don't, the tax payers pay for their coverage, it's their political benefits package. On the exact same lines as gun control. All these politicians who want them banned from the general public, all have armed security and/or have a conceal carry permit of their own so they never have to worry about actually defending themselves. Same thing, different argument.
My husband works for a company that was bought by a big electronics company. They have changed insurance providers during the time he has worked for them, but we have never had to go on the ACA because they never just dropped coverage. So some companies did, some didn't.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasnt just pure capitalism at work for at least some companies...when an opportunity to save money (since employees had a new way to get insurance that wasn't tied to employment) presented itself, it's easier to pivot and enjoy more profit (since you are not paying that out for employees) and even possibly not need as many employees if you don't have to pay for a benefits coordinator or the like now.

More needs to be done than just be able to view how much drugs are at list price or whatever. He said everyone would get better coverage for cheaper. Prices are just out of control, period. People who live responsibly can be easily bankrupted by medical costs that run up to the millions.
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Old Today, 04:17 PM
 
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You must be a very small private owned company. The company I work for and many other people I know that work for other large companies are a huge nationwide operations. When the mandatory ACA scam rolled out, I, along with many of the people I am friends with in these other large companies, had to sign up for the ACA because the companies we work for dropped the health insurance providers. Many health insurance providers also went out of business.

How much do politicians, like Obama and Pelosi, have to pay for health insurance? Oh, yeah, they don't, the tax payers pay for their coverage, it's their political benefits package. On the exact same lines as gun control. All these politicians who want them banned from the general public, all have armed security and/or have a conceal carry permit of their own so they never have to worry about actually defending themselves. Same thing, different argument.
First off large corporations have been reducing employee benefits since the 1980s. Health care in particular has been slashing in large corps prior to the ACA. A large corporation has a big advantage over cost health plan versus a small company as it gets much lower rates. Basically, a lot of large corporations do not care about its work force and only wants to show better profitability to its share holders.
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Old Today, 04:33 PM
 
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Companies dropped coverage because the insurance companies were going out of business. Does that ring any bells? Some had no choice but to sign up for the ACA program.

Nope it does not ring a bell. Could please name several major health insurance companies that went/were going out of business.
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Old Today, 07:00 PM
 
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It was that way preobamacare.



The vast majority of insured people were and remain insured by their employers’ plans.

The Individual Plan Market was and remains a small percentage of all insured people.
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Old Today, 07:13 PM
 
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Look at the unemployment numbers, for one. Economy is doing awesome. He supports our military, he supports our police, he wants to deport and keep criminals from crossing into America illegally. You're absolutely correct, he's completely the opposite of what Obama is/was and will always be. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it....

Trump 2020!
POTUS’ play the hand they are dealt.

Obama inherited a deep recession. Unemployment peaked in 2010 at 9.3%. it was at 4.7% when Trump became president. 2018 ended at 3.9%. In other words, the unemployment rate was halved during Obama’s second term which created tremendous momentum.

There is no question that Trump is a master of self promotion.

Having said that no POTUS controls the economy. If they did there would never be a recession.
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