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Liberals, please explain while "we" the American voter would want any of this:
1. We want jobs and fair pay, but want to tax corporations heavily, to a point of being non-competitive with the rest of the world in what is now a world economy.
2. We want to continue the unfair trade policies which have seen the demise of American manufacturing over the last 25-30 years as they moved overseas, accelerated by #1 above as well.
3. We want free college for everyone on the tax payer with no plan where the money is going to come from. Plus, your degree is going to be worthless if everyone has one.
4. We don't want any new power plants even though many of our larger (and liberal) cities are growing and experiencing blackouts. Lets demolish existing hydro-electric dams as well! Don't forget to drive your SUV to the anti-fossil fuel rally!
5. We want to push new green deals and the like, while happily having all our goods made overseas with the dirtiest forms of energy on the planet, and shipped half way around the world in container ships purportedly responsible for 28% of the worlds transportation pollution.
6. We want open borders and equal rights for ILLEGAL immigrants, a lawless revolving door justice system that only softly slaps their hands for the theft, rape, and murders they commit while only offering "meh, sorry" to the victims and their families.
7. We want to criminalize the US Citizen that injures or kills the ILLEGAL immigrant in #6 above while protecting themselves, their loved ones, or their property, take their guns away and toss them in jail.
8. We want our cheap poor quality foreign made junk, and don't care if the people that make it live in wire cages 10 per apartment or if that junk breaks or wears out quickly, explodes, shorts out, poisons us and our pets, or burns our house down.
9. We want free healthcare, legal representation, food stamps, housing, and schooling for ILLEGAL immigrants while those working and paying taxes and health care premiums face a poorer quality of life.
10. We want sprawling homelessness, mentally ill, and drug addicts on the street. The drug dealers that sell to them are ok if they only have a certain amount on them or less. When they rape or kill again after being released for the 16th time its the victims fault. Oh and I almost forgot, sorry you have to die waiting in the ER because it's full and some homeless druggie is having his 13th overdose.
11. We can't have a secure border, but it's ok for our liberal Czar's to have large walls around their estates and security at the entrances.
12. We want to give billions in "aid" to countries that hate us, when we need billions right here at home for replacing and updating our countries aging infrastructure.
Liberals, please explain while "we" the American voter would want any of this:
1. We want jobs and fair pay, but want to tax corporations heavily, to a point of being non-competitive with the rest of the world in what is now a world economy.
2. We want to continue the unfair trade policies which have seen the demise of American manufacturing over the last 25-30 years as they moved overseas, accelerated by #1 above as well.
3. We want free college for everyone on the tax payer with no plan where the money is going to come from. Plus, your degree is going to be worthless if everyone has one.
4. We don't want any new power plants even though many of our larger (and liberal) cities are growing and experiencing blackouts. Lets demolish existing hydro-electric dams as well! Don't forget to drive your SUV to the anti-fossil fuel rally!
5. We want to push new green deals and the like, while happily having all our goods made overseas with the dirtiest forms of energy on the planet, and shipped half way around the world in container ships purportedly responsible for 28% of the worlds transportation pollution.
6. We want open borders and equal rights for ILLEGAL immigrants, a lawless revolving door justice system that only softly slaps their hands for the theft, rape, and murders they commit while only offering "meh, sorry" to the victims and their families.
7. We want to criminalize the US Citizen that injures or kills the ILLEGAL immigrant in #6 above while protecting themselves, their loved ones, or their property, take their guns away and toss them in jail.
8. We want our cheap poor quality foreign made junk, and don't care if the people that make it live in wire cages 10 per apartment or if that junk breaks or wears out quickly, explodes, shorts out, poisons us and our pets, or burns our house down.
9. We want free healthcare, legal representation, food stamps, housing, and schooling for ILLEGAL immigrants while those working and paying taxes and health care premiums face a poorer quality of life.
10. We want sprawling homelessness, mentally ill, and drug addicts on the street. The drug dealers that sell to them are ok if they only have a certain amount on them or less. When they rape or kill again after being released for the 16th time its the victims fault. Oh and I almost forgot, sorry you have to die waiting in the ER because it's full and some homeless druggie is having his 13th overdose.
11. We can't have a secure border, but it's ok for our liberal Czar's to have large walls around their estates and security at the entrances.
12. We want to give billions in "aid" to countries that hate us, when we need billions right here at home for replacing and updating our countries aging infrastructure.
I'm sure I missed something?
I'd try to answer some of those points, but I think you have already made your mind up and aren't going to consider any other possibilities than your own views. So, I will just save my breath.
Explain to me why the GOP hasn't fixed immigration yet. We clearly need illegals to do jobs citizens won't do, and the right is happy to employ them and demonize them at the same time
Especially the outright stupidity about loving the environment and then cheering for garbage imports and the countries they come from and ignoring everything else involved with their shiny plastic disposable $11.99 toaster.
Liberals, please explain while "we" the American voter would want any of this:
1. We want jobs and fair pay, but want to tax corporations heavily, to a point of being non-competitive with the rest of the world in what is now a world economy.
2. We want to continue the unfair trade policies which have seen the demise of American manufacturing over the last 25-30 years as they moved overseas, accelerated by #1 above as well.
3. We want free college for everyone on the tax payer with no plan where the money is going to come from. Plus, your degree is going to be worthless if everyone has one.
4. We don't want any new power plants even though many of our larger (and liberal) cities are growing and experiencing blackouts. Lets demolish existing hydro-electric dams as well! Don't forget to drive your SUV to the anti-fossil fuel rally!
5. We want to push new green deals and the like, while happily having all our goods made overseas with the dirtiest forms of energy on the planet, and shipped half way around the world in container ships purportedly responsible for 28% of the worlds transportation pollution.
6. We want open borders and equal rights for ILLEGAL immigrants, a lawless revolving door justice system that only softly slaps their hands for the theft, rape, and murders they commit while only offering "meh, sorry" to the victims and their families.
7. We want to criminalize the US Citizen that injures or kills the ILLEGAL immigrant in #6 above while protecting themselves, their loved ones, or their property, take their guns away and toss them in jail.
8. We want our cheap poor quality foreign made junk, and don't care if the people that make it live in wire cages 10 per apartment or if that junk breaks or wears out quickly, explodes, shorts out, poisons us and our pets, or burns our house down.
9. We want free healthcare, legal representation, food stamps, housing, and schooling for ILLEGAL immigrants while those working and paying taxes and health care premiums face a poorer quality of life.
10. We want sprawling homelessness, mentally ill, and drug addicts on the street. The drug dealers that sell to them are ok if they only have a certain amount on them or less. When they rape or kill again after being released for the 16th time its the victims fault. Oh and I almost forgot, sorry you have to die waiting in the ER because it's full and some homeless druggie is having his 13th overdose.
11. We can't have a secure border, but it's ok for our liberal Czar's to have large walls around their estates and security at the entrances.
12. We want to give billions in "aid" to countries that hate us, when we need billions right here at home for replacing and updating our countries aging infrastructure.
I'm sure I missed something?
13. Can't give billions in aid to our own crumbling infrastructure when Trump just looted the treasury with yuuuge tax cuts helping the wealthiest the most, after all they aren't paying for themselves and now we are looking at trillion dollar annual deficits.
But I'm guessing you don't care about that
Btw #6 is a complete right wing talking point. Illegals commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens and the vast majority of mass shootings in this country the last several years have been committed by citizens, all male, many with right wing tendencies
Explain to me why the GOP hasn't fixed immigration yet. We clearly need illegals to do jobs citizens won't do, and the right is happy to employ them and demonize them at the same time
They had two years... no excuse. Trump tried... Congress failed.
They had two years... no excuse. Trump tried... Congress failed.
Trump didn't try. Trying means you have to offer something to the other side
The closest we got was the gang of 8 under Obama
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