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Old 07-30-2019, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I'm old. I don't know anyone at all who is looking to retire to a big city who doesn't already live in one. Think crime, cost of living and taxes.
They don't seem to be. So new retirement communities are springing up in some rural towns as here. Don't know what the appeal living there is other than being within easy walking distance of golf: https://legacyvillagestillwater.com/
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:54 AM
 
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Yes but A. It’s not just Texas 12 of the 15 fastest growing states are red states, 93! of the 100 fastest growing counties are red counties B. Most of the surrounding smaller cities/suburbs are growing faster than the city cores C. state policy is far more important than local policy local policy is very granular, most red states even place limits on taxation within their cities. The pro growth policy of red states is working, its driving capital investment and human capital to their areas. Blue states are growing far slower much of which is via international immigration and its very unequal growth, business and home ownership rates in most blue states are terrible.
Do you have a link to where you have seen the data for things like 93 of the 100 fastest growing counties? It would be interesting to see what the parameters were.

Specific numbers matter a lot when talking about this kind of statistic. Counties with big cities/population will naturally have a harder time showing up simply because of the amount needed to move the needle, so lists like that can possibly be a bit less useful for the discussion unless we know more.

For example...I found this article quick which included a chart with a top 10 fastest growing counties chart. It used data from 2016-2017 and included all counties with over 10k residents. I'll pick Morgan County, Utah since it's in my state and, well, since it does happen to be the biggest example of what I mean.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fast...ies-map-2018-3

It started at 11,373. Ended at 11,873, for a 4.40% increase. It made it into the top 10 growing counties with just 500 new people. There were some with changes in the thousands, but it looks like about 15,000 or so was the highest change to make the list. A county with 1 million people would have to add 44,000 new people to match the Morgan County growth percentage.

For me, I like the suburbs. Not quite big city, but not in the middle of nowhere. Have chickens and fruit trees and veggies and stuff. Trying to talk my husband into mini goats and more down the line. My own little homestead.

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Old 07-30-2019, 05:39 AM
 
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Because rural America REALLY sucks. Like, big time.

I'll take rural over city any time.
Now when I'm talking rural, it's like some of the small lake towns I Northern Michigan. Our cottage is on a small lake with about 30 others and we are within 6 miles of a small town, then 30 from one large enough to have a Walmart, Starbucks etc.
We ATV, Boat , Bike , Hike and Snowmobile. Can't wait to retire there.


Now talking rural , like the place I was born ...El Dorado, KS...no effing way.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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You move into the city for your job and leave as soon as you're able. It's like doing time.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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With all the talk about how terrible America's cities are lately and how rural America is a shining example of the 'real America', why is rural America in such decline? Why is there so much poverty in the Ozarks and Appalachia? Why does everyone who has the means to want to move to the big city for employment and quality of life? In addition, very few cities are predominantly conservative.

https://www.citylab.com/perspective/...ecline/588883/
Immigration to the cities have been prevalent since our country was founded....nothing new! That said, your premise that "everyone who has the means wants to move to the big city for employment and quality of life" is false. I came from the big city and certainly have the means to live anywhere I want. I have chosen a rural life for the last 25 years.....and couldn't be happier!
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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With all the talk about how terrible America's cities are lately and how rural America is a shining example of the 'real America', why is rural America in such decline? Why is there so much poverty in the Ozarks and Appalachia? Why does everyone who has the means to want to move to the big city for employment and quality of life? In addition, very few cities are predominantly conservative.

https://www.citylab.com/perspective/...ecline/588883/
I can't speak for everyone, but all the jobs I ever held were on urban metro areas. I really don't mind it either.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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They don't seem to be. So new retirement communities are springing up in some rural towns as here. Don't know what the appeal living there is other than being within easy walking distance of golf: https://legacyvillagestillwater.com/
What's the appeal of living in a large urban area, unless you need to for a job? Easy walking distance to a mugging?
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Lazy bum infested USA
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Funny how the vast majority of job creators operate in large, liberal cities with high taxes.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What's the appeal of living in a large urban area, unless you need to for a job? Easy walking distance to a mugging?
Lot of people like to live in suburbs where they are close to services like grocery stores, pharmacies, restaurants, night clubs, movie theaters, hospitals, schools, day care, sports events, entertainment etc. And yes, close to other people.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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What's the appeal of living in a large urban area, unless you need to for a job? Easy walking distance to a mugging?
For a young person?

1. More job opportunities
2. Cities are a meeting place for like minded young people
3. More things to do and a more varied way of life
4. The ones heading to the cities are on average more educated and have more opportunities than young people who remain in rural or small towns.
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